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Post by gillwales on Sept 9, 2017 22:31:33 GMT
Is there infection in the site? Can you feel any heat? There could be deep seated pus in the area. Just a thought as it used to be quite common many years ago. Look at the pony from behind at the affected area, see if it is symmetrical, if it is not then this could either be the sign of an infection or it could be a conformation default which could be the cause of the discomfort.
Many years ago I was going to purchase a youngster but it appeared to have a large lump on one side behind the saddle area, it was not something I had previously encountered so I got it vetted. It turned out not to be a lump but a missing muscle; now I'm not saying that this is what is wrong with your boy but telling you this to show that things are not always as they appear.
Good luck
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Sept 10, 2017 6:08:53 GMT
Just a thought - I could be way off the mark here, but has this pony been tested for ulcers? www.tcmequine.com/EGUS.html drkerryridgway.com/2016/07/05/equine-ulcers/ - we have one which had ulcers - she began with wither pain (as it was winter we thought it was rugs) and being unhappy walking down a hill. There had probably been earlier symptoms (she was always slightly tight coming through on her right hind and quite often went disunited) but until we knew what we were dealing with they had all been isolated.
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Post by sarahp on Sept 10, 2017 6:21:50 GMT
Gillwales is that what they used to call fistulous withers? Haven't heard of that for years!
Once you start thinking various possibilities crop up - ulcers could be one, and did your physio test her ribs? They can "do a rib" which I think basically means soft tissue damage down there, making girthing up painful.
I took the pain in withers scenario at face value and was thinking that the next possible thing to do would be very expensive and on the line of X-rays and/or a bone scan to check the spine? Perhaps a workup by a top equine referral centre if your vet isn't at one already would throw up a more detailed diagnosis? But all that would depend on your choices and if the pony is fully insured or not. You could start before that by checking the diet and altering it if necessary and maybe adding additives to make it suitable for a pony with ulcers to see if that makes any difference? Not anything I know much about but I'm sure some on here will!
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Post by gillwales on Sept 10, 2017 8:12:38 GMT
Yes Sarahp it is, I didn't use the proper name as I wasn't sure others would know what I was talking about lol.
Don't you find that some horses/ ponies are always having problems? I wonder if it a result of a conformation fault ( sorry Frankyboy I'm not talking about your pony specifically here ) It would also be interesting to look at the breeding to see if the gene pool is week as this could well be the answer, personally if indeed it was that I would wonder if it was worth while continuing.
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Post by frankyboy on Sept 10, 2017 11:18:38 GMT
Thanks everyone /just a worry for such a young pony with excellent breeding x
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Post by CarolineNelson on Sept 11, 2017 7:03:00 GMT
With winter approaching, have you considered taking this pony right back to basics and take the pressure off (both mentally & physically). Lunging (in tack, to maintain a structure) using a wide circle and preferably using a pair of lines to maintain steering.
Watch carefully for any irregularity (on both reins) both when on the lunge and when loose in the field at liberty.
Feed off the ground to encourage the pony to open the shoulders. Does he /she eat like a baby foal with wide spread front legs or does grazing happen comfortably?
Only re-introduce the saddle when you feel the pony is comfortable. Initially on the lunge or long reins. No stirrups, or tie them so they don't flap.
When you eventually start riding again initially try taking a leg up - say in the stable bareback or over a rug if you prefer. Short and sweet, just as if you were re-breaking the pony. Make it be a fun time, not a stressful time.
- don't ever mount from the ground. use a block of some sort or take a leg up. If you're out hacking, you can always find a bank, or a lower bit of ground to stand the pony in if you've had to get off for a gate, for example.
In the future, let any riding be fun and not stressful. S-J, take a chill-pill with this young pony. Positivity when handling the pony (in all situations) not negativity is key.
Good luck x
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Post by catkin on Sept 11, 2017 8:15:05 GMT
I agree with Caroline's advice above that a rest and a slow start back again would seem a good idea. However, in reality, I really would recommend some diagnostic imaging (scan/x-ray etc) as the best way to quickly find out if there is anything going on. Good luck
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Post by sarahp on Sept 11, 2017 8:51:14 GMT
Everything I rode had to be well trained to stand dead still while I clambered up the nearest fence, dead tree, lorry ramp or whatever to get on. I haven't been able to get on even a small D from the ground for at least 30 years!
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Post by CarolineNelson on Sept 12, 2017 16:07:19 GMT
I've taken a step back from this current problem, having received your Private Message.
Yours is a difficult analysis, given that you commenced with a blank canvas when you purchased the pony.
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Post by frankyboy on Sept 12, 2017 16:49:36 GMT
thanks
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