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Post by Helpsocieties on Oct 29, 2017 7:54:20 GMT
Would be grateful for some advice on which societies to join or have to join as we have different types of ponies coming out next year and don't want to join too many if we don't have to.
We have a fell and a coloured, We would like to do both HOYS and RI with the fell and RI workers as well as other flat classes with the coloured . We were thinking of joining NPS as a definite as have other ponies that can compete under this society but not sure what the TSR can offer us.
Would be grateful for any help thanks.
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Post by notpicky on Oct 29, 2017 11:22:56 GMT
Would be grateful for some advice on which societies to join or have to join as we have different types of ponies coming out next year and don't want to join too many if we don't have to. We have a fell and a coloured, We would like to do both HOYS and RI with the fell and RI workers as well as other flat classes with the coloured . We were thinking of joining NPS as a definite as have other ponies that can compete under this society but not sure what the TSR can offer us. Would be grateful for any help thanks. Joint CHAPS with your coloured, this will allow you to compete in the coloured HOYS qualifiers and they have a fab championship show! If you want to do RIHS with the coloured you will have to join BSPA!
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 29, 2017 13:26:46 GMT
To compete your fell at RIHS you need to join BSPS (if you want to do juniors then it is PUK as well) BSPS will also cover you for HOYS with the fell. If you want to do plaited WHP classes (N/stakes, 133cm, 143cm, 153cm or intermediate with your coloured then this is also covered by BSPS for RIHS & HOYS Hope this helps
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Post by CarolineNelson on Oct 29, 2017 15:30:35 GMT
To add - unless you are already, (irrespective of 'showing/qualifying prospects) to become a Member of the Fell Pony Society (FPS) will give you huge insight into your Breed and its History. To remain a Member of the NPS is excellent on the M&M and general British Native Pony knowledge front. And, Janet Bushell & 'not picky' have given you good advice as to the rest of it!
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Post by the showing register on Oct 29, 2017 18:41:47 GMT
Hi helpsocieties with TSR you cannot do any RIHS Q but you can do HOYS MM and juniors and coloureds for HOYS. You could register yourself and the two ponies / horses for approx £30 it might be a bit less I am useless with money stuff ! On top of that their are £40 of benefits and you can enter our regional finals held all around the country. www.theshowingregister.co.uk for full details Good luck !
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Post by ponymum on Oct 30, 2017 9:21:19 GMT
Its such a shame the societies cant agree to a one off joining fee so the people with ponies that fall into a few categories dont have to join 2 or more societies. Ends up costing a fortune before you even enter a show...
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 30, 2017 10:01:39 GMT
Its such a shame the societies cant agree to a one off joining fee so the people with ponies that fall into a few categories dont have to join 2 or more societies. Ends up costing a fortune before you even enter a show... It is also a shame that people no longer seem to want to join a society to attend the various championships that these societies offer, amongst other things, rather than "just" wanting to know how to enter RIHS, HOYS qualifiers etc. Whilst I agree that it is expensive to join various societies (I speak as a judge on several panels!) this cost pales IMO when taking into account all the travel, entry fees & levies for the above, if the competitor does not also enjoy showing at the area shows, winter, summer & autumn championships, breed shows etc & the many benefits these all offer, from training, classes for younger competitors, novice & young pony classes, points schemes, social events and more.
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Post by sarahp on Oct 30, 2017 10:28:46 GMT
I couldn't agree more janetbushell, all these societies and their shows will disappear soon the rate things are going, leaving only qualifiers standing and nowhere for novices both equine and human to learn the ropes first, and more importantly, get to know other people and have fun.
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Post by CarolineNelson on Oct 30, 2017 11:19:13 GMT
Its such a shame the societies cant agree to a one off joining fee so the people with ponies that fall into a few categories dont have to join 2 or more societies. Ends up costing a fortune before you even enter a show... It is also a shame that people no longer seem to want to join a society to attend the various championships that these societies offer, amongst other things, rather than "just" wanting to know how to enter RIHS, HOYS qualifiers etc. Whilst I agree that it is expensive to join various societies (I speak as a judge on several panels!) this cost pales IMO when taking into account all the travel, entry fees & levies for the above, if the competitor does not also enjoy showing at the area shows, winter, summer & autumn championships, breed shows etc & the many benefits these all offer, from training, classes for younger competitors, novice & young pony classes, points schemes, social events and more. Like the contributor SarahP above, I totally agree with Janet Bushell. Furthermore, in the instance of the OP, who has a British Native Pony and also a Coloured animal, so much can also be learned about the history, type and welfare of the chosen Breed - and lifelong 'like-minded' contacts made, by becoming a Member of the relevant Breed Society.
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Post by cmnli on Oct 30, 2017 11:19:54 GMT
Totally agree Janet but also have some empathy with ponymum! If you want to do qualifiers it can really add up in terms of membership and for us it is the pony registration that pushes up costs. I think your suggestion of thinking about which championship show you want to attend is a really good point to consider as unless you have very deep pockets most of us will only do 1 or 2 as stabling and entries really push cost up, let alone the time factor as they all mostly fall in August! Personally Heritage Champs are my absolute favourite, if you have natives (see H&H this week) coming after the stress of HOYS it just always seems such a friendly and dare I say it laid back show and so well organised. Mind you I also have a soft spot for BSPS Winter Champs (providing the weather is kind!!) Like everything in life today so much choice best advice go and enjoy!
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Post by janetbushell on Oct 30, 2017 11:41:26 GMT
Oh I have every sympathy with ponymum - it just seems to me that people could look at the other value they get from society membership, more than just attempting to qualify for RIHS, HOYS etc
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Post by gillwales on Oct 30, 2017 19:51:49 GMT
The bonus of joining the NPS is that most areas have an active group which provide far more than just qualifying for RHIS or HOYS, a lot do social evenings, teach ins and local support, this is a far more valuable resource than chasing qualifiers. The main body of the NPS also offer the chance of training and will try to support their members. The NPS summer championship shows offer a wide range of classes with evening performances and championships. Using the 3 counties showground means that there are excellent facilities and a great atmosphere.
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Post by Philippa on Oct 31, 2017 5:21:47 GMT
Well we will be doing BSPS & NCPA again next year. We attended both BSPS Champs for the week & NCPA Pony Of The Year & had a great time at both.
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Post by Join one.... on Oct 31, 2017 9:43:36 GMT
All good points above but unless people join the respective breed society for the pony they compete they may find in future there are limited ponies available for them. HOYS accepts membership of the relevant breed society for a pony and that should be peoples first priority, most breed societies also run training events for young and older people wanting to know more about their breeds including judges panels. Its a great shame that membership of NPS/BSPS etc appears to take priority over the stud book societies. The breed societies run breed specific shows and these are usually more laid back than some of the 'qualifiers'.
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Post by Philippa on Oct 31, 2017 11:05:33 GMT
All good points above but unless people join the respective breed society for the pony they compete they may find in future there are limited ponies available for them. HOYS accepts membership of the relevant breed society for a pony and that should be peoples first priority, most breed societies also run training events for young and older people wanting to know more about their breeds including judges panels. Its a great shame that membership of NPS/BSPS etc appears to take priority over the stud book societies. The breed societies run breed specific shows and these are usually more laid back than some of the 'qualifiers'. I agree totally and I am also a life member of WPCS and would gladly support our local association shows but unfortunately most struggle to accommodate part needs but especially PB LR ponies. In fact I entered my local association PB class with my LR pony one year after clarifying there was no rule against it with the committee and then sadly the next schedule that came out had NO LEAD REINS next to the PB ridden class so alienated my pony. Sad as I was the only one in It when we did it!!!!
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