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Post by poppypony on Aug 10, 2009 8:24:33 GMT
Can anyone give me any tips on teaching a 4 year to do leadrein classes.
He has done alot inhand, so runs on alot and needs to go steadier.
He has also started throwing his head up to aviod the bit when been ridden when been asked to slow down. This started with a previous rider, which also needs sorting out.
thanks
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Post by cassie30 on Aug 10, 2009 8:28:26 GMT
Do some lead rein work wothout a jockey, put some side reins on it and practise, he wont be able to throw his head around so much, dont put them on too tight though, start off loose and build up to the contact a rider would have. Slow your running right down.
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Post by tabbyx on Aug 11, 2009 8:33:08 GMT
slow your running right down. if you can go to a couple of county shows and watch how the producers run(i can't stand some of them but they all produce wonderful lead rein ponies). definitly put side reins on but not to tight and build it up over a week or so until there at the same contact as rider would have.
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Post by sammy1667 on Aug 11, 2009 15:05:14 GMT
Head shaking can mean a number of things not just that his avoiding the bit, my mare throws her head about when learning new exercises or when were doing something that she may be finding dificult its just her way of communicating with me, when she understands what im asking of her the head shaking stops........
With regards to the trotting he is still a baby and he may be finding that he is loseing his balance with a rider on his back which is causing him to rush.....
When babys lose there balance they dont understand to hold back on the hocks slightly or to slow down to regain balance, only with lots of circle exercises and getting him to slow hisself down will he realise that he does not have to rush to regain his balance but to just hold back slightly on his hocks...... Strapping his head will not teach him to balance hisself!
Again it comes with time and consistancy he his a baby and maybe just finding it difficult to balance hisself!
Think of a trolley or a wheelbarrow once you lose control or balance you just get faster and faster!
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Post by fox111 on Aug 11, 2009 16:22:38 GMT
i had the same problem did a bit of long reining with peossa to teach half holt and said steady now if i say steady he will come back.
Watch the head throwing we had bitting problems baby teeth, low lampus and no room atall in his mouth now use a myler snaffle and he's fine. but he hates side reins have to say didnt work with him unless really loose and on d's of saddle so totally useless with him.
Totally agree about the balance it takes time lots of working long and low little circles even managed figure of 8 on the long reins. if you tie him in tight he may start grabbing the bit and dropping out of his shoulder? each pony different trial and error!
good luck
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Post by fayeandash on Aug 13, 2009 13:42:28 GMT
I had this very same problem last year with our lead rein pony. I took him for walks down our country lane with side reins on, every few meters i told him to stand, giving him a little help at first by gently pulling on the reins, after a few days he soon got the hang of it, and stood when i spoke to him. The trotting wasn't too much of a problem as he had done a lot of in hand with his previous owner, but he did want to go fast, so when i lunged him i would do lots of trot - walk transitions, each time just using my voice and saying steady when i wanted him to walk, he eventually learned that steady meant go slower, so then put it all together without a jockey, i found after the lunging he listened a lot more, and was much easier to lead. I must say when the jockey was eventually put on i made sure she held the saddle, as he was very sensitive in his mouth and daughter had jumpy hands, he was much happier and sweeter with this.
Good luck with everything x
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Post by giggs on Aug 13, 2009 15:39:59 GMT
I agree with all of the above. I can remember starting out in showing with a lead rein pony and was really struggling. I went on a 1 day training course with a professional which really helped me i.e. my body language and how i should run and communicate with the pony and also how to school the pony for lead rein.
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Post by barefoot on Aug 17, 2009 19:56:15 GMT
Working them I longreins is great and will give you a more natural outline, it's also not such a shock when they feel a child slightly unbalanced.
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Post by jaymar2228 on Aug 17, 2009 22:41:02 GMT
Lots of voice commands teach them on the lunge and enforce them on long reins and in hand hope this helps
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Post by snowflake on Aug 18, 2009 10:50:10 GMT
Try doing lots of walks and halys and make sure they are listening to you. We have had a lead rein exactly the same so make sure before you go in the ring don't hang round ages as the pony gets fed up of standing round and whats to get on with it. Long reining and lunging helps and get him listening to your voice however, too much long reining can cause to the pony going with it's head out because it is used to there being contact so low down.
Running him out in hand may help but every time he goes to quick immediatley bring him back to walk and start again keeping him slow, he needs to understand your the boss and listen to your commands. Hope this helps; good luck!
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Post by tabbyx on Aug 24, 2009 10:25:27 GMT
some producers give lesons. i know julie templeton does and i think katy carter does aswell.
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Post by poppypony on Aug 24, 2009 20:09:01 GMT
Thanks everyone, not doing too bad. Struggling when leading in trot, just going far too fast! But practise makes perfect!
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Post by norwalk on Oct 15, 2009 21:25:16 GMT
Practice, practice, practice! (without jockey - train the pony first)
When you get the the stage that the pony automatically changes stride and pace as you do you know the work has paid off!
Would highly recomend a few sessions with Julie templeton, she really is good and it is money well spent! My daughter loved her!
Good luck, it's agreat class to do, although you have the moods and personalities of both pony AND child to cope with!!!
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 15, 2009 21:53:16 GMT
1 point i always swear by, even when leading in from the field or wherever, lead as though you would be leading in the ring, make sure pony is walking where he should be.
It has taken us 2 sessions to get our lead rein pony to know when to walk, trot and stand, still learning the turns, but it is coming very quickly. He has learned what my body language is telling him to do and the voice training he had as a 2-3 yr old has helped lots.
He was walking far too fast to begin with, but now knows to walk with me not in front, i love doing lead reins its great fun!
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Post by peacefultwo on Oct 18, 2009 21:29:33 GMT
Start off by long reining to get her trotting at a steady pace. Then walk her out in tack with side reins. Walk at her shoulder and carry a stick when you go round corners raise the stick slightly and give her a command ie "over" something she will associate with going round. (we used come by) Never step in front of her legs and when you ask her to trot just lengthen your stride. All our LR ponies used to keep pace with the handlers feet, they turned away when the stick was raised slightly and to wards the handler if it was lowered and moved out. We did loads of work without a jockey and could after about four/five weeks stand about 8 feet away and still carry out a controlled figure of eight.
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Post by inkjet on Oct 18, 2009 21:34:38 GMT
p2 do you want spike back for a bit of schooling.
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Post by cassie30 on Oct 18, 2009 21:35:26 GMT
We use the stick method too, they pick it up really quickly, do loads without jockey too. We've just popped some loose side reins on today and its all coming nicely now...but how much am i dreading getting the lead rein gear on again???!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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