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Post by just be fair on May 7, 2007 9:15:46 GMT
After the lost shows thread i wondered what do you all think about the location of our big shows do you all think they should stay were they are or should they be moved, i think it will be very intresting to know what you all think, however lets be fair to each other and consider other competitors who live in a different areas to ourselves.
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Post by girly on May 7, 2007 10:28:39 GMT
The problem with putting on the big shows is finding suitable venues that will accommadate everone and will attract competitors sponsors and the fee paying public in large enough numbers to make it viable. The NEC, for example is accessible for a large number of people due to its location near major motorways.
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Post by boro on May 7, 2007 10:58:23 GMT
Not sure if it classes as a big show but puk was much better at peterborough!
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Post by hehe on May 7, 2007 14:04:10 GMT
hey
I think shows should be held at the new Equestrian at Aintree this is where they have the Grand National and this would be suitable for all needs because it is just off the motorway it is between north and south and it has just been built for major shows and it is great It will also have lots of room and has a massive indoor
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Post by daffodil on May 8, 2007 11:22:23 GMT
There should be more shows in south/ south west area, very poorly provided for qualifiers, whether it is PUK NPS or the HOYS Olympia classes
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Post by Guestless on May 8, 2007 13:13:05 GMT
Personally, I think there should be a fair split so that people from all over the UK can have a go at at least one large show each year without having to travel hundreds of miles.
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Post by julie on May 8, 2007 13:44:56 GMT
Am I right in thinking in the old days there were a lot of big shows held on racecourses? I am thinking in particular of City of Worcester show which was a real biggy...now we are all passported/vaccinated along the lines of racehorses wouldnt this be an easy route? After all there is parking, stabling, well watered courses or all weather tracks, suppose the rails might be a problem...
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Post by Arena uk fan on May 8, 2007 17:08:30 GMT
Arena Uk is right on the A1 ,has stabling,all weather surfaces ,a large indoor school,cafe,bar,hospitality dining & plenty of space. BSPS Winter champs were there & don't think there were complaints about the venue. Think more shows will be held there in the future. ps. I don't have anything to do with it either!!!
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Post by wanna on May 8, 2007 21:54:50 GMT
i think that there should be more bigger shows held at towerlands and addington
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Post by just be fair on May 9, 2007 9:37:38 GMT
Do we think that the venue should take priorty over location? I love the RIHS held at Hickstead although it is a 6 hour plus journey, however for people in Scotland it must be double that is it fair on those ponies? would societys not be better getting shows in the midlands area that is central to most people i like the NEC much better than the old Wembley and also much shorter journey for me than London i think it was very unfair when the RIHS was at Hickstead and HOYS in London what about Aintree that seems pretty central this website is read by lots of people and our views may well be taken into consideration by the people that make these decisions
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Post by solitaire on Jun 12, 2007 20:47:43 GMT
Yep midlands would be good area and fair to most people but suppose cost of nec would rule it out for most associations and i agree peterborough was better for puk although newark is about same travelling for us from devon
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Post by mac on Jun 12, 2007 21:53:46 GMT
Hickstead will be 11 hours for us - and there are quite a few live hours further North than us. A nightmare! I would be so happy if RIHS moved North. However it is a lovely showground (when the sun shines). HOYS at NEC is pretty good. Much easier to get to and much more room.
More shows at Towerlands? It's not exactly central is it? I agree that Aintree would be better for many.
So what happens with all the talk of reducing our carbon footprint? Will we end up showing our ponies at National finals by video link?
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Post by essendy on Jun 12, 2007 21:57:17 GMT
would love not to spend 5 or more hours on the road to get to one of the big shows
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Post by donut on Jun 13, 2007 7:22:15 GMT
Well we are 3 hours North of Mac so a 14 hour journey is on the cards for us to go to RIHS. I agree Aintree would be a great location AND it's next door to Robinsons!!!
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Post by daffodil on Jun 13, 2007 7:43:29 GMT
What about the south/south west Aintree however nice is a 5+ hour journey, Addington, Towerlands is also a major trek
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Post by clobo121082 on Jun 13, 2007 8:35:20 GMT
i can fully understand people struggling to get to hickstead but to move it would be awful, this is a traditional show and a lovely lovely venue. Also i think by holding all the shows at the same venue ie the new aintree one or NEC the shows all merge into one. I would hate there to be a show at the nec that wasnt hoys as otherwise hoys wld feel no difference. I agree we need a good divide between north and south, if we have them all in the midlands then northerners and southerners wld be travelling whilst the people from the midland would be sitting pretty, doesnt make it much fairer!! I also think it is not just to do with venues but having people willing in those areas to put on shows. There are quite a few good shows up north because the hollings for example are willing to put them on. I have to say i liked arena UK a lot for the winter but wld hate the summer champs to move there as i love peterborough x
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Post by Guestless on Jun 13, 2007 8:38:03 GMT
What about the south/south west Aintree however nice is a 5+ hour journey, It's the same for those of us up north, so that IMO makes it quite a central location!
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Post by t on Jun 13, 2007 9:17:08 GMT
Towerlands gets a big vote from me, i love this venue
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Post by ysg on Jun 13, 2007 21:25:19 GMT
Yorkshire Show Ground gets my vote!
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Post by SaturdayGirl on Jun 14, 2007 10:56:41 GMT
Hmm well HOYS and Nat Champs at Addington are the only ones nearish to us in the SW. We're not that far South but still seem to have to travel forever. Arena UK is 5.5 hours, Keysoe 5 hours, Towerlands 5 hours, Mysercough (where we're going in Sept) will be about 8 hours. I think it's good when societies move champs around; ie BSPA have their summer and winter champs at Keysoe; whereas other societies move them around a bit.
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Post by just be fair on Jun 14, 2007 12:38:23 GMT
I really feel for the people in Scotland would you southerners go to the RIHS if it was moved to Aberdeen how many of you would be happy with that i love hickstead but be fair i would not want my ponies on a lorry for 12 hours +
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Post by hehe on Jun 14, 2007 19:43:30 GMT
Well we are 3 hours North of Mac so a 14 hour journey is on the cards for us to go to RIHS. I agree Aintree would be a great location AND it's next door to Robinsons!!! Thankyou for everyone agrreeing with me lol It is suppose to be great at Aintree and it is just off the motorway Myerscough I love lol
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Post by shows on Jun 14, 2007 19:52:41 GMT
There are shows all round the country to cater for every-body, so why should any of them move? If there are less people living in some areas they have less shows but that's up to the people who live there, if you want lots of shows you move.
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Post by cath on Jun 14, 2007 23:13:41 GMT
There should be more shows in south/ south west area, very poorly provided for qualifiers, whether it is PUK NPS or the HOYS Olympia classes get your friends together then, and organise some.....
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Post by just be fair on Jun 15, 2007 8:21:04 GMT
In reply to shows guest i take it you do not live in Scotland and in reply to Daffodil i cannot belive you have yje cheek to ask for more shows down south you have most of them know i started this debate as i feel sorry for the Scottish and people who are always at a disadvantage to most i do not live in Scotland i am in Cumbria selfish people spoil things we have to consider other people
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Post by Central on Jun 15, 2007 12:47:29 GMT
I think the major shows such as HOYS, RIHS and other big champs should be made more central because it must be awful travelling from Scotland. We are in Yorkshire and it is far enough for us
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Post by not logged in on Jun 15, 2007 13:26:19 GMT
I think racecourses make lovely show venues. They are always so well landscaped, clean and tidy and equine friendly (unlike many county showgrounds!!).... and usually have nice going. It was a pleasure to compete at Midland Counties (Uttoxeter racecourse) a couple of weeks ago, of course the wonderful weather helped!!
I see that Chester Racecourse is holding showing classes over 2 days in August alongside its annual showjumping festival. This is a fab venue....right in the city centre!!! Classed include RH/Cobs/hacks and a selection of Bsps classes.
I too think that Aintree would be a wonderful venue.After all this is almost "hallowed" ground!!! The new facilities sound perfect....and all that hard standing parking!!! I suppose these racecourse companies are trying to find other ways of making their asset (the racecourse and surrounding land) add to their profits and it makes sense to embrace more equestrian activites than diversify into "unknows territory". Lets hope they find them profitable.
Having said that, I'm only too delighted to have qualified for the RIHS and will make the long trek (around 6/7 hours) willingly!!!
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Post by solarina on Jun 15, 2007 13:51:06 GMT
Arena UK is a lovely venue, as is Richmond EC near Catterick, although the road down to it is rather a tight squeeze for big wagons and the parking is a bit limited.
Great Yorkshire Showground is fab, but no indoor, which also applies to Somerford Park in Cheshire – a really smashing venue.
I don't like the NEC much for HOYS - just because the working in facilities are limited and it's not a showground in any real sense. There is that lovely new arena in Scotland now (in H&H this week) and another one in Liverpool, so no excuses for not having more oop North!
I think the main problem for these venues is avoiding clashes with other big shows and still finding available dates...
Agree that RIHS must be a hell of a trek for Scotties, as its six hours for us where we are in UK, but wow its such a great place - so much atmosphere and history. Would totally hate it to move
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Post by mara on Jun 16, 2007 9:46:15 GMT
I personally have always loved Hickstead as a venue despite never having competed there - it used to be one of my locals to go & watch at & dream as a child. I didn't qualify for my class there at Strathallan but would have moved heaven & earth to get there.
NEC - I've not been to HOYS since it moved there, I've been for other events & don't particularly like it but I always loved the atmosphere at Wembley.
I personally can see the need for a really good Scottish Show along the lines of HOYS, perhaps with the champions being invited to go forwards to such as HOYS/Olympia.
Dabbs Masters attempted to fill this gap & it's a shame it's not really come to fruition - maybe it will be resurrected in the future.
I think people who suggest residents of the west such as Cornwall & Scotland move so they have more shows perhaps take their rose tinted glasses off - not everyone wants to live in ever increasing suburbs with non-stop traffic & maybe family or work ties prevent this anyway.
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Post by frobster on Jun 16, 2007 12:07:28 GMT
I don't even attempt RIHS qualifiers, as I wouldn't bother taking the trek down there... We really don't travel and furthest we'll go is Stonleigh!! We probably would go further if the horse would stay in a temporary stable!! I have to say, although people will disagree, I think we have plenty of big shows in the north west!! There is a lot of choice, and we had to only choose a couple to do this year, so we don't overdo it! Midland Counties was a very very nice show venue! And I agree that racecourses make great show venues ETA: I think HOYS is a fab venue and central enough! I really wouldn't go to RIHS as the coloured qualifiers are just handed out to virtually every single person! There are some DREADFUL ponies qualified, just because there were only 1/2 in the classes! Wherever any of the big shows are situated, nobody will ever be happy...
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