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Post by ttfn on May 23, 2007 21:07:28 GMT
With regards to "also on the commitee",
10 hours stewarding that is longer than some people work in a day, especially with out a break and you do this out the goodness of your own heart, ok your on commitee Surely if they did less classes, people would not be seen as unfriendly as they would not be so tired!!!!!
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Post by vi on May 23, 2007 21:28:55 GMT
have to agree karen
think some people need to get out more
as said about 25 posts ago if you don't like it don't come ;D
end of move on ......... ;D
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Post by bronco on May 23, 2007 21:57:06 GMT
do the SWPA produce accounts for the members annually?
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Post by treasurer on May 23, 2007 22:24:00 GMT
yes fully detailed! so as commented above ........... move on ........
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Post by Guestless on May 23, 2007 22:29:21 GMT
Looking at the main members of the commitee can you have all the main fiqures from one family? Do they all live under the same roof? Surely the chairman, secretary and treasurer would be signatories? With my working hat on (as a community worker) I certainly discourage family members from becoming office bearers on the same committee - it does leave things open to question.
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Post by boring on May 23, 2007 22:37:46 GMT
;D
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Post by bronco on May 23, 2007 22:48:38 GMT
well vi, treasurer and boring, you obviously dont like questions being asked?? It really shouldn't be a problem, as with any organisation supported by members, the whole thing is accountable to them.. You should welcome the opportunity to show just that.
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 6:29:29 GMT
The Accounts are there for anyone to ask to see! they were all agreed by NONE committee members at the AGM. As I understand it the Signature is from two different families on the committee
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Post by havetoagree on May 24, 2007 8:17:51 GMT
I was a member of SWPA for 2 years about 4 to 5 years ago, I never received details of accounts or of any AGM's/election of committee members!
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 8:27:49 GMT
I see my karma is going down! lol
havetoagree what is your name as we can check on the databace if you were not sent anything!
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Post by everywhere on May 24, 2007 8:33:43 GMT
I was a member of SWPA for 2 years about 4 to 5 years ago, I never received details of accounts or of any AGM's/election of committee members! There are many organisations like that. Have heard that NPS Area 17's committee have yet to let their members know of committee changes. Nothing has been sent out since the chairman was bullied out. No information usually means a cover up and is exactly why everyone should attend AGM's and ask questions in person rather than on here.
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Post by vi on May 24, 2007 8:43:48 GMT
Bronco
don't like this thread! which is just slagging off people who are honest and work hard
SWPA is open honest and run for the fun side of showing not all this rubbish
some people not happy unless they got something to moan about!!!!
hence the move on .......
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Post by morts on May 24, 2007 9:29:43 GMT
Sorry but the term "move on" usually means someone somewhere doesn't like the questions that are being asked and feels uncomfortable about answering them. As I see it no one is moaning just asking questions and passing comment. I have a question............. Why is the committee so defensive about these quite reasonable questions? So far CTS is the only one to reply in a reasoable manner to any point put. Well done CTS for your openess. So come on SWPA none of the questions asked should be shrouded in secrecy .
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 9:34:18 GMT
Sorry but the term "move on" usually means someone somewhere doesn't like the questions that are being asked and feels uncomfortable about answering them. As I see it no one is moaning just asking questions and passing comment. I have a question............. Why is the committee so defensive about these quite reasonable questions? So far CTS is the only one to reply in a reasoable manner to any point put. Well done CTS for your openess. So come on SWPA none of the questions asked should be shrouded in secrecy . We are happy to answer questions. However when we are being sent Vile messages via our own personal stud website about members of the committee and fellow competitors you can understand why our backs are up! To the ones that say there never received accounts, did you ring or email to ask where they were??? Did you receive your show schedules for that season?
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Post by was there on May 24, 2007 9:48:56 GMT
If the accounts are above board and the committee is squeaky clean why are you so defensive?
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Post by Toofar on May 24, 2007 9:49:41 GMT
cts i think it is advisable when you are running any club or association to send out accounts to your members each year, you shouldnt expect them to have to ask - it is the norm to get them in the post
Maybe it isnt a good idea also to have such close associations (family & close friends) holding the purse strings, only trying to be helpful in my suggestion as otherwise it does lead to speculation and has
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Post by not the case on May 24, 2007 9:57:16 GMT
cts i think it is advisable when you are running any club or association to send out accounts to your members each year, you shouldnt expect them to have to ask - it is the norm to get them in the post Maybe it isnt a good idea also to have such close associations (family & close friends) holding the purse strings, only trying to be helpful in my suggestion as otherwise it does lead to speculation and has this is not the case - stop speculating, you are trying to cause trouble.
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Post by was there on May 24, 2007 10:00:38 GMT
What is not the case, the accounts should be sent to all paid up members, after all it is there money that pays the bills. it is a known fact that the Broad family run this association.
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 10:09:21 GMT
What is not the case, the accounts should be sent to all paid up members, after all it is there money that pays the bills. it is a known fact that the Broad family run this association. There was a pile for all the Members at the AGM. This is were any matters for discussions could and should have been brought up. As it gets Minuted is there for all to see. Half the time any paperwork sent to members is scanned and binned! The number of Enitres that come in with Membership not known/lost, Even though members are given membership cards & there numbers are on the front of all Envalopes from SWPA.
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Post by morts on May 24, 2007 10:48:51 GMT
cts i think it is advisable when you are running any club or association to send out accounts to your members each year, you shouldnt expect them to have to ask - it is the norm to get them in the post Maybe it isnt a good idea also to have such close associations (family & close friends) holding the purse strings, only trying to be helpful in my suggestion as otherwise it does lead to speculation and has this is not the case - stop speculating, you are trying to cause trouble. No we're not, just reasonable questions, What are you trying to cover up ?
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 10:51:43 GMT
However when we are being sent Vile messages via our own personal stud website about members of the committee and fellow competitors you can understand why our backs are up! Morts Please read that as might expline it a little
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Post by vi on May 24, 2007 11:04:08 GMT
morts - far from shrouded in secrecy it has been offered on here for anyone with questions to contact SWPA and details given, which many have well done to them so why not come and ask there instead of on a gossip site ? ditto to any other questions your more than welcome to contact US and ask
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Post by haveto agree on May 24, 2007 11:11:03 GMT
FOA cts; I have not been to any SWPA shows for at least 4 years, for many reasons, some of which have been commented on here, nor do I intend going to ANY in the future. I acknowledge the hard work that goes into them, however, I am not interested in receiving copies of something that I was a member of years ago, I have not implied there is any impropriety within the association, then or now. Like others I am only interested in NPS classes. SWPA shows have far far too many classes to make it a viable and enjoyable day out
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Post by my opinion on May 24, 2007 11:15:25 GMT
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 11:35:03 GMT
FOA cts; I have not been to any SWPA shows for at least 4 years, for many reasons, some of which have been commented on here, nor do I intend going to ANY in the future. I acknowledge the hard work that goes into them, however, I am not interested in receiving copies of something that I was a member of years ago, I have not implied there is any impropriety within the association, then or now. Like others I am only interested in NPS classes. SWPA shows have far far too many classes to make it a viable and enjoyable day out If you are not intereted to come to SWPA in the future why are you so interested As for number of classes. No one makes people enter them all. I do wish some of you would put your names forward for all to see!
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Post by havetoagree on May 24, 2007 11:56:14 GMT
cts.....This thread has interested me, I found the SWPA shows in need of a complete overhaul, and am pleased to read that I am not the only one, I have'nt been for years, but obviously nothing has improved. Do not SWPA take notice of what people suggest? I agree with 'my opinion' many who attend these shows are never seen out on the 'circuit', indeed, I have never seen the people who run SWPA at any other show, so many may be forgiven for thinking it is a 'private club' type situation
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 12:07:16 GMT
cts.....This thread has interested me, I found the SWPA shows in need of a complete overhaul, and am pleased to read that I am not the only one, I have'nt been for years, but obviously nothing has improved. Do not SWPA take notice of what people suggest? I agree with 'my opinion' many who attend these shows are never seen out on the 'circuit', indeed, I have never seen the people who run SWPA at any other show, so many may be forgiven for thinking it is a 'private club' type situation This is why the SWPA Forum has been set up so people can give feedback, which if you had taken the time to look you will see it is working nicely. We need people to comforward and give sugestions and Time and welcome others to want to come on the committe. If we only Do SWPA why were all all out at devon County, The broads are at swansea this weekend, Newmans at windor etc etc, the list continues. We are not traveling as much as last year, after the loss of Roselea in November last year, it hit us very hard. but will be back full strenght in 2008. May be will will see you around then!
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Post by havetoagree on May 24, 2007 12:10:09 GMT
cts Doubt it, we no longer show, now have event horses
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Post by Cherrytop & Spicery Stud on May 24, 2007 12:12:52 GMT
might be the reason you have not seen use at shows then! lol May well see you at some one and three day events then!
(eddited to add I see my karma has gone down again, wonder if there is a record for the lowest in one day)
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Post by havetoagree on May 24, 2007 12:43:03 GMT
Still Judge at a few shows!!??
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