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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 17, 2008 12:02:43 GMT
Omg i was in the M&M large excluding welsh and there was a new forest that ran the kid in the wall and it got through ???OMG i was well anoyed as there was alode of others that didnt do anything wrong like my baybee who was as good as gold.x
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Post by commission on Jul 17, 2008 14:57:38 GMT
What colour was your horse/pony
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 17, 2008 17:03:29 GMT
i heard a few things about horses being naughty and getting through to the night when other horses had been good.
surly the horses manner count for something? or actually staying on the horse during the class.
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 17, 2008 18:23:42 GMT
he was grey with 4 black legs.yep true at least someone agrees lol.x
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Post by halfpass on Jul 17, 2008 18:55:49 GMT
Yes manners do play some part but not everything, may-be the others were more to breed type then you will forgive them some exuberance, not having been their I can not comment, if the ponies were out of control and likely to be a danger to others then I would of thought that the judge would of asked them to leave the ring, or that thats what I would do.
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 17, 2008 18:57:47 GMT
Yep but no she put them through and it ran the kid into the wall  well! |
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Post by commission on Jul 17, 2008 19:02:25 GMT
he was grey with 4 black legs.yep true at least someone agrees lol.x that was your problem then, you had the wrong coloured horse, if you watched her judge all day she placed blacks/bays at the top of the line everytime, I was in the section D inhand classed and whitnessed it first hand, top 10 were all black and then bay, then the 5 chestnuts that were left were unplaced, it was quite funny that she made it so obvious really, the other classes I watched were exactly the same  |
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 17, 2008 19:19:23 GMT
I no yer but she did put a grey highland through uther than that i toatally agree.
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Post by doodah on Jul 17, 2008 19:51:52 GMT
was it a youngstock class? if yes, conformation is more important and behaviour should kind of be excused
if not.... OMG!!!
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Post by commission on Jul 17, 2008 19:58:13 GMT
No it was inhand M&M, the judge on sunday took no notice of manners or behaviour, she based most of her decisions on colour, I watched most of her classes and the way some of the horses/ponies behaved was really bad but she still placed them high up the line |
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 17, 2008 20:37:31 GMT
Yep did you watch the M&M large breeds excluding welsh.x
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Post by commission on Jul 17, 2008 20:43:24 GMT
Yep did you watch the M&M large breeds excluding welsh.x # I certainly did I was also in the shetland inhand class, where a shetland that wouldn;t trot out and spent most of the time rearing up was placed in the top 5 As I say I just ended up laughing in the end because it was so obvious, if you look at the photos on the photographers website you can see its so obvious  |
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 18, 2008 7:37:40 GMT
Yep that is true.x
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Post by commission on Jul 18, 2008 7:59:52 GMT
Check out the entrants on the photographers website for the inhand championship for the sunday, you will only see black and bay horses  Oh well I for one won;t bother showing under her again |
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Post by fayeandash on Jul 18, 2008 8:17:11 GMT
who was judging?
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Post by halfpass on Jul 18, 2008 16:34:15 GMT
blimey don't you all get intense do you all take Valium before or after you show, why not chalk it up to experience and move on.
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Post by martinetaylor02 on Jul 18, 2008 16:52:10 GMT
I dont think that inhand should be judged on manners inhand is for like the best of breed, type, straighness, quality.
if it was a handler class.... then i could understand....
The inhand results were no different to at other shows all winners worthy ones. Dont know how you can call the judge.
God dont go to proper breed inhand shows! or arab shows you'd be mortified!!!!!!!
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Post by breed classes on Jul 18, 2008 18:05:15 GMT
Breed classes should ultimately be judged on breed type and descriptions. On a whole temperament, unless an obvious nasty temperament, is somewhat over looked as breed type is paramount. Yes its not ideal that the steering on the pony is far from perfect but if it s agood example of its breed then its pretty irrelevant in a breed class.
I was not at this show but generally the Black and very dark Bay cobs are a different type to the other colours so could well be what the judge preferred in type rather than colour being the only factor. There is a very distinctive type of dark bay cob that is far more substantial and close to the floor like the old Cardigan Cobs. Just because she was potentially consistent in her judging and it may not be to you liking doesn't automatically mean she is bent. Which photographer was it please so we can have a look.
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 18, 2008 18:52:55 GMT
right ok the photographer was equestrian event photos.
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Post by halfpass on Jul 18, 2008 19:21:50 GMT
well had a quick look at the cobs and can't see where the problem is, there did not seem to be many chestnuts and the ones that there were seem to be of a type, not the same as the darker horses,
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 19, 2008 15:24:04 GMT
A hip flask in your basket is also a brilliant addition to the showing kit, far more beneficial than an oiley rag and tastes even better than Cowboy Magic poop stain remover in a crisis!!! sod the hip flask, i'll have a bottle of wine in my basket! its good for celebrating a win or drowning my sorrows! LOL |
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Post by halfpass on Jul 20, 2008 13:21:16 GMT
wow my type of girl, slip a glass or two to the judge may help them to see straight
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 20, 2008 13:26:06 GMT
slip the judge there own little drink including vodka! LOL
dont know about see straight but they could be straight on ther ar5e!
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Post by horseymum on Jul 20, 2008 15:10:59 GMT
wot colour was the shetland ur talking about? because i watched that class and everythin that got placed deserved its placing, is this a case of sore loser? debbie gregson is a good judge and does not have a certain colour she goes for true to type and no i dont no her personelly i have been judged by her several times.
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 20, 2008 17:16:35 GMT
oh and let me guess you git placed???
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Post by horseymum on Jul 20, 2008 17:28:46 GMT
oh and let me guess you git placed??? No i didnt have anythink in the class !! |
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Post by Fellow Competitor on Jul 20, 2008 18:10:01 GMT
I was in that class Carinsvictor, and there were two greys and a pale dun that all got in the top 10. The bay New forest I think your on about didn't get in the top 10. Isn't Debbie a hunter judge? The winner of the class was most certainly worthy  Well done to whoever that was |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 20, 2008 18:17:43 GMT
am so glad i do mainly working hunter than showing!!!
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Post by elitelady on Jul 20, 2008 20:18:51 GMT
its a shame many people feel the need to slate judges on an open forum, many of these judges do it for the love of horses and often go unpaid.... i think for those of you that believe this is an easy task go and see if you can get on a panel.. put your money where your mouth is. Its just a display of terrible sportsmanship.......
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 21, 2008 11:31:34 GMT
every one is entitled to the freedom of speach, and i think this is why they have a forum for moaning.
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well!
Oh well I for one won;t bother showing under her again
