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Post by chocaholic on Jul 22, 2008 9:42:40 GMT
Standing close up to the ponies in a ring is a completely different ball game to "judging" from the ring side , quite often a horse /pony which looks like an obvious one to be placed is not when you get close.
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Post by danni on Jul 22, 2008 13:35:39 GMT
I'm sick of reading this comment about the blacks/bays in the d class if anyone watched the whole class they would have seen that a very nice chestnut mare was pulled in third,but she actually left the class to go and do her ridden and didn't make it back in time,
I know this for a fact because i was pulled in 4th next to her but moved up to third,
The stallion that won was stunning,and the mare that was 2nd always does well and my friends d who i was showing is a fab example of his breed,
Don't think its very fair for people to keep writing on various sites that horses were only placed because of there colour not there standard !
Also in the m+m youngstock class i was in a chestnut filly got well placed.
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 22, 2008 14:14:23 GMT
to be honest am getting fed up with reading bad comments about judges...at this rate there will be none left as they wouldnt want to get bit*hed about on sites like this. i wouldnt like to judge as i wouldnt want people to try and drag my name down...not that its up any where...
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 22, 2008 18:20:12 GMT
Every 1 is entiteld to there own apinion!
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Post by danni on Jul 23, 2008 7:58:36 GMT
Everyone is entitled to there own opinion, But regarding the sec d class people need to get there facts right before they come on open forums slating judges. It's not nice to read that your pony only got placed due to its colour! We've all stood bottom of the line at some time regardless of whether we think we deserve it or not  |
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 23, 2008 8:15:23 GMT
I watched the section Ds and what got placed were really nice and disereved it..
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Post by danni on Jul 23, 2008 8:21:20 GMT
Thank you  We came 3rd but loved both 1st and 2nd,don't mind getting beaten by good ones  |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 23, 2008 11:46:33 GMT
cairsvictor- i'm also entitled to my own opinion.
not everyone can win every weekend..
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Post by EllisB on Jul 23, 2008 12:10:37 GMT
its a shame many people feel the need to slate judges on an open forum, many of these judges do it for the love of horses and often go unpaid.... i think for those of you that believe this is an easy task go and see if you can get on a panel.. put your money where your mouth is. Its just a display of terrible sportsmanship....... I agree totally. |
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Post by halfpass on Jul 23, 2008 13:08:54 GMT
I'm quiet happy for you all to have a good old moan about my judging, I have broad shoulders and can take the criticism, and I find it amusing. Also while you are all moaning about me your leaving some other poor bugger alone.  |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 23, 2008 17:06:34 GMT
halfpass - got to say your comment made me giggle! where do you judge and sort of classes? is it mainly M n M??
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Post by equineck on Jul 23, 2008 21:26:05 GMT
Well I got 3rd in Bs with my chestnut. And was very happy with the line up, Would of liked to have got the 1st thou |
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Post by Guestless on Jul 24, 2008 9:35:17 GMT
I think it's quite common for a pony that has misbehaved a bit to be placed inhand and I don't see a problem with it - the class is about type, movement and conformation and while I would expect ponies to have manners, I appreciate some of them can be a bit hot and as long as there is nothing unsafe that happens, then it's fine IMO.
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Post by whats the point on Jul 24, 2008 9:37:44 GMT
what is the point of show these days??? it's all such a farce.....i will never set foot in an affiliated showring again  it's not what youv'e got it's who you know that counts, DISGRACEFUL |
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Post by cairnsvictor on Jul 24, 2008 9:44:34 GMT
Well said "whats the point".x
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Post by dancer on Jul 24, 2008 11:37:45 GMT
what is the point of show these days??? it's all such a farce.....i will never set foot in an affiliated showring again it's not what youv'e got it's who you know that counts, DISGRACEFUL That's 1 less for the rest of us to worry about then |
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Jul 24, 2008 12:21:56 GMT
dancer - i agree, one less... thats a place up in the rosettes?
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Post by huni85 on Jul 24, 2008 12:24:56 GMT
what is the point of show these days??? it's all such a farce.....i will never set foot in an affiliated showring again it's not what youv'e got it's who you know that counts, DISGRACEFUL That's 1 less for the rest of us to worry about then one less to compete against and to hear moan! |
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Post by squiljj on Aug 4, 2008 11:52:58 GMT
thought the judging was pathetic at uk showing this year !!
and tbh i cant see any of the judges at uk showing to have gone unpaid
and i dont see that we "slate" the judges we just expect to be judge fairly and professionally
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Aug 4, 2008 12:18:49 GMT
squiljj - please can you explain why the judging was pathetic?
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Post by halfpass on Aug 4, 2008 13:17:00 GMT
thought the judging was pathetic at uk showing this year !! and tbh i cant see any of the judges at uk showing to have gone unpaid and i dont see that we "slate" the judges we just expect to be judge fairly and professionally have read this three times and managed to get the gist of what is being said, and it basically boils down to the fact that if you win the judge is right and if you don't then it's a fiddle, I take it that you had a really poor show at UK Showing as all the judges were wrong. |
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Post by squiljj on Aug 4, 2008 14:05:47 GMT
i didnt show at uk showing this year so isnt down to me being a sore loser !!
felt that classes wer judged unfairly
i watched a hunter class where a large grey horse reared up infront of the judge and went on to win
i also watched classes where lovely horses wernt getting placed and horses that didnt deserve to even qualify for the show were winning dont think its fair on those who truely deserve to win
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Post by halfpass on Aug 4, 2008 14:26:26 GMT
but that is your opinion as is your right to make, the same as it is the right for the judge to make their opinion, neither is wrong just different and thats the way it should be, if our opinion is always the same showing would be very boring because the same horses would always win and be placed the same at every show.
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Aug 4, 2008 16:25:39 GMT
well said half pass have a karma!!
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Post by squiljj on Aug 4, 2008 16:36:22 GMT
i personally would have a boring show than an unfair one
how can you justify placing something that doesnt deserve to be placed just to make it not boring ??
hmmmmm
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Aug 4, 2008 16:47:15 GMT
think halfpass was just saying that its was the judges decision - and if all the judges liked the same horses and no1 would get a looking i think that is what is meant by boring!
theres always going to be difference of opinion with every class coz not everyone like the same horses!
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Post by i love showing on Aug 4, 2008 18:15:24 GMT
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Post by halfpass on Aug 4, 2008 22:11:34 GMT
you are oh so right
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Post by flagmountmolly08 on Aug 16, 2008 19:30:06 GMT
dont know which thread it was about people going on about HOYS standard ponies at local shows.. well.. i was at the irish draft and sport horse show today.. and my little man who doesnt really win any where won a class with horses that have qualified for HOYS and went on to his workers with a very good standard of horses and won that!
so it doesnt matter what type of horse or what standard... everyone has a chance!
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Post by diadem on Sept 5, 2008 15:19:56 GMT
Ive been put down the line one week cos me pony gave excellent impressions of a rocking horse and then been in the top 6 in the RW a week or two later and yes this was with a rather bubbly younsgter.
Judges do and should put ponies down that misbehave, as how can they see that a pony is straight, and that it s conformation is correct if it wont keep still long enough and is throwing itself all over the place.
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