Hoods that rub!

[Hayche.]

I'm having grave problems with my hoods, i have a snuggy hood fleece hood that rubs my ponies mane out - well i say rub but when i take the hood off it just falls out by the hand full! I also have a lycra one that doesnt but its too cold for him to wear that after he's been clipped this week, he's been wearing his outdoor hood instead but it seems to be doing the same as the fleece :/ I've tried putting the lycra under the fleece but it just slips back into his eyes, so I'm all out of ideas now, has anyone had the same problem or does anyone know of a solution?
Thanks Hayche

[NeverSayNever]

We don't have problems with any of ours and we use the Shwmae Products hoods and rugs. All are rugged up all year never had a problem and their not lined...... Once had a snuggy that rubbed our show ponies mane out the lining was a little hard for our preference.

[pimms'o'clock (Jess)]

Handsome horse designer products, theyre more of a snood round the neck so aren't skin close, theyre fab!! Think they have a website and they have a facebook page too. We bought one for our fell as he has lots of mane and didnt want a hood to rub and we love it!!

[Deleted]

I dont find the hoods rub, I just find with a couple of my mares, being hooded seems to kill the hair follicles and the mane just dies and falls out. No sighn of rubbing anywhere

One mare is totally bald at the moment after 2 weeks in a light weight NZ with neck

My grey mare is hooded all the time - same rugs, same hoods and her mane is always perfect - thankfully - as she would be filthy if not hooded.

[astrozombie]

Sew a girth sleeve to the inside of the hood this worked for mine

[NeverSayNever]

Lovepink I must also agree heavy outdoors with 3/4 necks are killers!!
Won't use them! I will be useing a Shwmae Products neck sleeve with no head on my pony as he is a paited pony and I would cry if his mane were to come out at all. I will also use a red and navy nylon 100gram indoor found on Robinsons, that is the only rug I know not to rub

[daizylindsay]

I personally hate hoods or full necks and wouldn't use one on my horse. I got him a full neck premier equine yrs ago which caused his mane to fall out and it has never properly recovered.

[Hayche.]

Thanks everyone! ... totally agree about the 3/4 neck rugs they are awful, we avoid them at all cost .. and i do admit i dont really like hoods either they're just so much hassle to keep putting on and off all the time but he has to wear them as he's just been clipped for olympia so he needs to stay warm ... I have seen Shwmae hoods and they look very good but will try the girth sleeve first as that would be cheaper but if that fails i shall be getting him a leopard print hood from Shwmae.
Thanks again!

[smokeycott]

send me your address and i will send you a strip if lycra to sew inside the fleece hoodie i ahve lots of spare lycra from hoodies i make but i dont make fleece hoodies because of the mane rubbing problems you can get as fleece is not 4 way stretch
laura
binkihoods

[NeverSayNever]

In reply to smokeycott, i've never had a problem with a fleece hood only if it's been lined with a harder or stretchy material as it seems to catch the mane and tugg on it. I would never use a 3/4 neck again if it had a hard rim around it as rubbed my natives mane off but simply put a fleece hood under and it seemed to stop.

[pinknumnah]

Overheating can make the hair fall out in handfuls like that ...

[cayo]

my mares mane falls out with hoods neck covers for any length of time just pop on to turn out in mud now i have come to conclustion she gets too hot and it just falls out end of

[ticktock]

There's no need for a hood for warmth if they're wearing the right rugs. Horses survived for years without necks on rugs, even when they were clipped. Could you try without?

[catkin]

Hayche. I have experienced exactly the same problems. However, have overcome using different techniques with different ponies. Try some of the following

1. swap the hood, one for day one for night
2. rub mtg oil into the mane every three of four days
3. line the top/crest with silk, an old scarf is best. You need at least 15cms width and go right down the front of the head too
4. try a bigger hood. MY 128 sp wore a snuggy hood and jams but really a size too big and this really helped. However, on some the added movement seems to create a bigger problem.
5. study closely the movement of the hood when the head is down for grazing. I think this is when most problems occur. I added a loop of elastic to the hood for daytime wear to 'extend' it on the fitting to the rug.
6. make sure the hood is under all the other rugs

Good luck. Its a flipping nightmare!!!!

[rabbit]

totally agree re lack of oxygen, i actually hate hoods, and if i ever use them i cut the face out and just have it secured over ears, if you have ever seen an eye ulcer from a slipped hood rubbing the eye you would never use one!! our show horses are never clipped and when we do the early shows in the spring, we spend ages strapping the winter coat out, feed lots of oil, and our coats look good from feb onwards. I only use very loose combo turnout rugs when the weather is awful with 3/4 necks just to stop the rain running down inside their shoulders, but they are only out for about 4 hrs a day.

[smokeycott]

Nov 1, 2011 20:05:07 GMT NeverSayNever said:

In reply to smokeycott, i've never had a problem with a fleece hood only if it's been lined with a harder or stretchy material as it seems to catch the mane and tugg on it. I would never use a 3/4 neck again if it had a hard rim around it as rubbed my natives mane off but simply put a fleece hood under and it seemed to stop.

in reply to jumping jacks ,
as you addressed your comment to me,
im glad you dont have any problems with your fleece hood but this lady does and i have in the past that is why i dont make fleece, if im not happy using them why should i expect to sell them to other people.
i offered what i thought may have been a solution to her problem as my own cost.
i too show native ponies and know how important a nice mane is.
hope this explains my offer to help.
laura
binkihoods

[Sam]

I use binkihoods and totally recommend them, come in fantastic colours and excellent sales service.

[NeverSayNever]

Binkihoods maybe you took offence far to early. I was not doubting your hoods or the Lycra I was simply giving my opinion about what I see a good hood after using them on many ponies and horses over the years. I don't doubt for one minute that lycra is good but all the lycra hoods I have had have ended up ripped and dirty in days so I stick to fleece.

I also find fleece hoods keep my ponies much warmer than the wafer thin lycra hoods which seem to do nothing for warmth on my ponies. I know you can get lots of good colours on your hoods but I would rather a warm, clean pony that a colorful one personally.

I am not knocking your work just speaking from my experience and I go fleece every time.

[busybusy]

If the mane is falling out from the follicle (rather than being rubbed) the chances are that the pony is just too hot. This can lead to permanent thinning of the mane in this area. Try a much lighter hood (as I appreciate you need to keep a good coat for Olympia - and well done for qualifying!) such as a thin lycra hood. Try to keep the hood off for at least a couple of hours twice a day. I swear by megatek applied every other day to encourage growth and strengthen what you have left!
One of ours is fully clipped and has been out during the day since Hoys still in a LW turnout with no neck. Yes, he is a little fluffy, but has not dropped an ounce of weight....but then again, we don't have to keep him and his coat in tip top shape for Olympia. Good luck there!

[victoria (highhill)]

to be honest i think most rubbing issues are caused by ponies having too many rugs/hoods on! There was a thread on here the other day about how many rugs people had on already - i was amazed by ponies having heavyweight rugs and hoods on already when it is so mild!!

[Hayche.]

wow didnt expect so much feedback! thank you very much for your kind offer Laura i infact have one of your all in one pink binki suit that he wears the night before a show to keep his coat flat and shinny i do have an old ripped lycra hood that i could cut up instead which would be a good idea, so no need to put you out by sending some to me but thank you very much for the offer ... also i never really considered oxygen being the problem so will definitely try and keep his hood off for a couple of hours a day.
but funnily enough i found an old quilted hood a couple of days ago and it is quite loose and gives him plenty of room to move and is done up by only a few velcro straps so air can still get in, it also appears not to be rubbing him and as its thick enough it should keep his coat so fingers crossed!
Thanks busybusy, will send nan out to get some megatek and give that a go hopefully it will save what he has left! I also have taken a rug off him tonight so hopefully he wont get too warm... fingers crossed this works and thanks to everyone for their advice!