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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 15, 2011 10:39:02 GMT
I've been getting in work say 15-20 minutes late every now and again and I have pleaded with them to change my hours. They have said it is because of the horses I am late which it isn't at all, it's because of public transport and lack of time keeping on their part.
I set off at 6.30 to go and do my horses and leave enough time for getting to work. But I always get caught in traffic! But do work believe me? No! Because "I should just get someone else to do the horses" you know because it's just THAT simple!
So today I have been on to HR and they have finally granted the change of hours!!!
Why can't people understand horses don't cause the problem? The traffic did! Got to love none horsey people?!
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Post by Welshcob92 on Nov 15, 2011 13:24:42 GMT
if you always know you get caught in traffic then surely you should make time for that? do your horses earlier etc?
at the end of the day employers pay people to get to work and do a job, they have no interest or have a duty to care about traffic or the fact that traffic is bad on a morning?
just a point..
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Post by sageandonion on Nov 15, 2011 13:42:45 GMT
Sorry, but you simply must leave even earlier to get to work on time. Unemployment is at an all time high and there are plenty of people desperate to step into your shoes and have a job. Not wishing to be mean to you, just make you realise you must value your job and see your employers are not going to pay you for not being in work.
With regard to your horses, do not discuss them at all in work.
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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 15, 2011 14:03:25 GMT
okay so the fact I set out at 6.30 isn't early enough? my apologies.
Lucky for me my boss has been understanding when I approached her about it as HR just care for no one.
With regards to not discussing my horses, why not? I'm not hiding the fact I go to them before work, they are the reason I come to work after all.
I set off as early as I can and it proves difficult to get in work on time which is why I requested to start later and finish later. I always make my time up and for this reason they have allowed me to change my hours as they value me as an emplyee. Traffic is a hit and miss as anyone knows, one day it can be fine the next it can be gridlocked. So I really can't judge it which is why like I said I make sure I have time but surely 10 minutes here and there is fine as I make this time up.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 15, 2011 14:08:26 GMT
I had the same problem, i now go to my horses at 530, to be in work for 8, as i get stuck in traffic for an hour on my way to work i have to set off early. I cannot afford to lose my job as that would be the end of my horses. As my boss said there are plenty of other people that would have my job so need to keep them happy. you just have to suck it up like ive done it is tiring and annoying but at the end of the day those horses are my life and i couldnt have them if i was jobless.
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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 15, 2011 14:23:17 GMT
I know I've had to realise that my job is the most important thing as without that here would be no ponies! Sorry to bite off heads, I just wish that there were more hours in the day or I had Bernard's watch! Sorry x
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Post by ellieraga on Nov 15, 2011 18:16:52 GMT
Sorry to sound harsh, but you knew the horses when you took the job.
I would love to start later but i wouldnt dream of asking as they are the hours i am contracted to work. Also if we are late , warnings are issued.
I think you have been extremely lucky
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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 15, 2011 19:37:43 GMT
I used to be able to walk to work but then our offices moved  and a local main access road is shut and so traffic is unreal! I am, you're right but heat of the moment and all that ;D |
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Post by ellieraga on Nov 15, 2011 20:04:24 GMT
Makes you feel better though doesnt it, a good old shout and scream.
Im waiting to win the lottery so dont have to go at all, lol
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Post by mollymalone on Nov 15, 2011 21:37:40 GMT
As a manager I was taught that if a member of my staff was obviously having problems getting to work on time to be understanding of the reasons; public transport and reliability is a good reason to me to see if an employees ours could be changed. Its much better to be accomodating and everyone benefits.
If the person was just downright lazy then thats another matter and you can be stricter.
Well done to your HR department for listening.
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Post by network on Nov 16, 2011 12:47:57 GMT
okay so the fact I set out at 6.30 isn't early enough? my apologies. Lucky for me my boss has been understanding when I approached her about it as HR just care for no one. With regards to not discussing my horses, why not? I'm not hiding the fact I go to them before work, they are the reason I come to work after all. I set off as early as I can and it proves difficult to get in work on time which is why I requested to start later and finish later. I always make my time up and for this reason they have allowed me to change my hours as they value me as an emplyee. Traffic is a hit and miss as anyone knows, one day it can be fine the next it can be gridlocked. So I really can't judge it which is why like I said I make sure I have time but surely 10 minutes here and there is fine as I make this time up. You actually set off at 6.30 to do the horses not get to work! Sorry but it is not your employers problem if you cannot manage your time properly! I go and see to my horse at 4.30am to ensure that I am in work on time, my contracted hours are 9am to 5.30pm, but I know that if I aim to get into the office for 9am it wont happen due to the motorway traffic, so I ensure I am in the office for 7.30am. I wouldn't dare ask my boss if I could come in late to accommodate my hobby. |
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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 16, 2011 12:55:49 GMT
Makes you feel better though doesnt it, a good old shout and scream. Im waiting to win the lottery so dont have to go at all, lol It does you're right  And Desktop this is the point I am making - the horses are not what affects my time keeping, I leave them at 7.15 and set off to work. It's the unreliable public transport but my boss thinks that it is the horses causing the problem. Of course I wouldn't dare say oh can i start late as I need to go to the farm - Sorry if that's how it came across in my OP! they have now accepted that a major access point has been closed near my home which makes the voulme of traffic 4x the original amount due to everyone wanting to go down the same diversion. The buses have also become less frequent and taking longer to get from a to b. I have tried setting off as early as the first bus to make enough time - it shouldl only take 25 minutes but takes at least 1 hour with this closure. Thankfully my boss lives on the otherside of the closed bridge and knows all about it thus making allowances for my hours to change so that I miss the rush hour traffic |
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Post by mol123 on Nov 17, 2011 4:42:58 GMT
its nice to know other people are up at stupid times! 4.30am can feel very lonely! xxx
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Post by network on Nov 17, 2011 6:01:48 GMT
its nice to know other people are up at stupid times! 4.30am can feel very lonely! xxx LOL it certainly is ;D |
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Post by sageandonion on Nov 17, 2011 11:10:36 GMT
Over 1 million young people unemployed. How distressing for those that cannot find jobs and their parents too. If you are late for work it is no ones fault but your own and believe you me you are not valued for being unreliable.
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Post by carrie17491 on Nov 17, 2011 13:13:37 GMT
Over 1 million young people unemployed. How distressing for those that cannot find jobs and their parents too. If you are late for work it is no ones fault but your own and believe you me you are not valued for being unreliable. I know *says this as picking toys back up that were thrown out of the pram* It was just a heat of the moment, when I think, they have been rather reasonable to accomodate me! |
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Post by showingfanatic on Nov 17, 2011 14:16:07 GMT
I can sympathise with you re: public transport. I have been warned and warned by school for being late of a morning, but it's not my time keeping thats the issue-it's the buses! My school is only a 10-15 minute drive away, 25 mins tops when the traffics bad. I make sure I'm at the bus stop an hour before I need to be in school, on the occasions when the buses come on time/aren't full and actually stop; I get in as early as 8am (don't need to be in till 8:40) which leaves me 40 mins of wondering round doing nothingness when we're not actually even allowed in till 8:30. However, most mornings, the bus is either really late or it goes past the stop meaning I may not get in till 9. There's no easy way around it, can't really do right for doing wrong.  |
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Post by bumblebee on Nov 18, 2011 0:31:51 GMT
Afraid I have to agree with S&O here - just be grateful you have a job and can afford to keep your horses. Some of us aren't so fortunate atm (and it's not through lack of trying either).
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Post by bojangles on Nov 18, 2011 5:15:02 GMT
I have the other problem!! I work nights so it doesn't interfere with my horse time... or work time I start at 11pm & am supposed to finish at 7am from which I go straight to the yard to feed....You try explaining to the person who is taking over from you,when they are supposed to get in 10 mins before they are due to start so you can hand over and come strolling in at 7.15am...ask what is up when you have a face like thunder as you know your horses are going to be wrecking their beds as you are late down again! because someone cannot get into work on time!!! So I sympathize with the people that are waiting to leave work when the people that are relieving them are late! |
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Post by thecremellosociety on Nov 18, 2011 6:52:43 GMT
If i have something to do at home/ a parcel due etc i go to the yard at 5.30 and am home by 8am, love it at that time, get lots done, no one to gossip to just me and my ponies, but luckily working from home i set my own hours so today i am going up later, one lady at our yard goes for 4.30, we dont have shower or changing room facilities so the majority or work people get ready at home and layer up with waterproofs / all in one suit and just strip off for work ....
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Post by spendthrift on Nov 18, 2011 17:23:41 GMT
What the OP probably didn't make clear is that the main road has been closed for the last few months and there is only one other diversion (adding on at least 6 miles each way) :-( You can catch the first scheduled bus that runs this route and some days it will still get stuck in traffic jams on the diversion so ends up running late. For those in their own cars yes you can choose to set out a little earlier or even go a different route, but when tied to public transport you tend to be at their mercy.
I think OP was being realistic in asking for a formal change of hours to allow a later start and finish time. As a manager I would rather that than the impact on colleagues because she is unable to be relied upon to arrive at 8:45.
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Post by auntiebarb on Nov 18, 2011 17:59:29 GMT
Sorry to be dim, but it is some years since I worked, but isn't there a ruling that anyone can request flexi time, as long as the core hours are covered?
I am sure that at the hospital I worked, as long as your desk was manned for the required number of hours, covering at least 10am to 4pm, you could do the hours that suited you and your family. Having said that, some days I was at my desk at 6.40, being passed as I drove in by my son, just going home from a night out and I was still there at 9 at night. Luckily, my horse was looked over by my neighbour at her paddock, as I looked after their pony too, so a phone call would manage a late feed or rug check etc.
I suppose it depends upon what your job is. I found going in early missed the bad traffic hold ups anyway.
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and a local main access road is shut and so traffic is unreal! 
