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Post by iluvmyponies on Dec 26, 2011 18:57:01 GMT
Hi guys, just wondering if someone could point me in the right direction? Was having a chat with my mum earlier about memberships for 2012 & we've decided to join NPS. Am I right in saying that NPS covers HOYS, RIHS & Olympia qualifiers? We have 2 ponies on loan to us that we plan on joining NPS with, so do the ponies owners need to be members? So myself (Junior Rider) & the owners, will be members? What is the difference between the Junior, Full & Standard memberships? Or, seeing as this will be our first year joining, do we pay the one time joining fee of £10? Finally, we have a stallion so do we pay the £125 stallion licence fee? Sorry for all of the questions  Thanks in advance xx |
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Post by Guestless on Dec 26, 2011 19:17:53 GMT
You need to join BSPS now for Olympia qualifiers and it depends which RIHS quals you wish (BSPS covers the open quals, but I think NPS has junior finals at RIHS. For the juniors, both owners and riders need to be members, just owners for the other NPS qualifiers, eg silver medal, etc.
You will need to pay the joining fee if you're new members, but try to join before March as the subscription costs are rising from then. The stallion licence is for riding ponies, so if you have registered M&Ms, you don't need to pay anything extra with NPS (although you do need to pay to register them with BSPS if you want to do Olympia quals).
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Post by mcw on Dec 26, 2011 19:18:33 GMT
I am right in thining you are not eligible to qualify for Olympia of you win a qualifier as it is run by the BSPS. But HOYS and RIHS you're fine  Although think you have to carry your membership card around with you for certain qualifiers. |
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Post by iluvmyponies on Dec 26, 2011 19:41:35 GMT
Thank you Guestless, that has helped alot.
So to do Olymia qualifiers, we have to be members of BSPS? Will it be owner & rider that need to be members? Yes we want to do the Junior Finals at RIHS, so that is covered by NPS?
Thanks again
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Post by forester on Dec 26, 2011 19:46:17 GMT
BSPS for Olympia NPS for Junior RI If you win a qualifer for Olympia you have to go on and be champion to get the qualification or attend and win at the Heritage champs With regards to Memebership if your under 18 then you will need an adult to become a memeber of BSPS too-so that would be you the rider an adult and the pony and the Owner!!! NPS is just one fee for all  |
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Post by mcw on Dec 26, 2011 19:51:20 GMT
Thank you Guestless, that has helped alot. So to do Olymia qualifiers, we have to be members of BSPS? Will it be owner & rider that need to be members? Yes we want to do the Junior Finals at RIHS, so that is covered by NPS? Thanks again RIHS Juniors - Pretty sure you need to be a member of PUK (they have run it every year prior). Don't know about membership. Olympia qualifiers - BSPS members for owner, rider and exhibiter. Again if the owner and exhibitor are the same person, you just register the owner. A final note about Olympia qualifiers, don't bother doing them unless they're qualifiers for the final directly! Complete waste of time and money if you do the semi-final quals as have to travel to Arena UK, then maybe a 1 in 40 chance of qualifying, which means you have to travel down to London only to pay about £200 so you can drive through it, plus entry fee's etc. Total rip off! Especially in Winter when it's too cold for competing! |
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Post by tabbyx on Dec 26, 2011 19:56:31 GMT
OLYMPIA & RIHS qualifiers(exc. P(UK) Juniors at RIHS which aren't covered by NPS only P(UK).) are BSPS only,you have to have your cards on you to qualify and have to be members to enter.
NPS covers all HOYS qualifiers APART from coloureds,arabs&horses. BSPS also cover all HOYS qualifiers aswell.
NPS cover the RIHS m&m whp.
For BSPS,owner,rider and pony have to be registered,no height certificate is needed for Heritage ponies,unless they qualify for HOYS,don't need them for RIHS and Olympia,it is in the rulebook,no Heritage class under BSPS rules(including RIHS&Olympia) require a height certificate.
NPS you have to have your membership card on you&be registered to qualify for the summer champs&autumn festival. To enter the finals(at the Spring&Autumn festivals and summer champs) you must be a full member(owner only),rider does not need to be a member apart from for the NPS Area 25/Underwood Family Young Riders championship at the Spring festival.
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Post by iluvmyponies on Dec 26, 2011 21:57:00 GMT
Thanks everyone, been a great help!
So, if I did a RIHS juniors qualifier, only the ponies owner would have to be a member of NPS. Is that correct?
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Post by mcw on Dec 26, 2011 22:24:25 GMT
Thanks everyone, been a great help! So, if I did a RIHS juniors qualifier, only the ponies owner would have to be a member of NPS. Is that correct? No, PUK There is a list of qualifiers on their website too  |
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Post by swannie on Dec 26, 2011 23:28:33 GMT
Thanks everyone, been a great help! So, if I did a RIHS juniors qualifier, only the ponies owner would have to be a member of NPS. Is that correct? Open Heritage RIHS quals and Olympia quals are run by BSPS. Owner, rider and pony all have to be registered with BSPS in the current year to compete and qualify. The BSPS have also introduced a Pretty Polly (Home produced) M&M flat qualifier for 2012. The junior/intermediate M&M finals at RIHS are under PUK rules and owner, rider and pony all need to be reg with PUK to qual for these. The M&M WHP classes at RIHS are under NPS rules and the owner of the pony needs to be a member of NPS and the OWNERS card carried by the rider in the ring in order to qualify. The pony does not need to be registered, but if it qualifies, the RIDER must then join the NPS before the final in order to compete at RIHS. For HOYS the owner must be a member of ANY ONE of the three societies and the pony registered with it's breed society. All about as clear as mud really lol! Hope that helps tho' |
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Post by swannie on Dec 26, 2011 23:44:20 GMT
Also re NPS: To qual/compete at RIHS M&M WHP owner must be a full/showing member. Therefore, although ponies don't need to be reg with NPS they must be owned by an adult. ie. a Junior member cannot be an owner & a junior membership card will not be acceptable for qualification purposes.
In PUK and BSPS registered owners must also be over 18 so a junior rider/member must have an adult member as owner of their pony.
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Post by Guestless on Dec 27, 2011 0:22:51 GMT
NPS you have to have your membership card on you&be registered to qualify for the summer champs&autumn festival. To enter the finals(at the Spring&Autumn festivals and summer champs) you must be a full member(owner only),rider does not need to be a member apart from for the NPS Area 25/Underwood Family Young Riders championship at the Spring festival. Ah, that's the one - sorry I knew there was a junior final the owner and rider had to be members and I mistakenly took it as being RIHS, but I remember now that it is PUK that runs the juniors at RIHS....I don't do juniors.  |
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Post by iluvmyponies on Dec 27, 2011 1:55:17 GMT
Yes swannie, clear as mud, thick dirty mud!  So if I join NPS, I can only do HOYS? Yes? & if I join PUK, I can do Juniors at RIHS & HOYS? & if I join BSPS, I can do HOYS & Olympia? So to do HOYS, RIHS & Olympia, I need to join all 3?! |
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Post by tabbyx on Dec 27, 2011 12:31:36 GMT
Yes swannie, clear as mud, thick dirty mud! So if I join NPS, I can only do HOYS? Yes? & if I join PUK, I can do Juniors at RIHS & HOYS? & if I join BSPS, I can do HOYS & Olympia? So to do HOYS, RIHS & Olympia, I need to join all 3?! No,BSPS run RIHS aswell,so under BSPS you can do RIHS,HOYS&Olympia opens,P(UK) run the juniors/intermediate m&m's at RIHS,nothing else there,NPS run the m&m whp at RIHS. You only have to join all 3 if you wish to compete in the RIHS junior/intermediate m&m qualifiers( P(UK) ) and the RIHS m&m whp championship qualifiers(NPS) BSPS run RIHS M&M riddens&flats,show pony,show hunter pony,working hunter pony,mini show pony,mini hunter pony,pretty polly classes. They share the running of the HOYS classes with P(UK) and NPS for the same classes. BSPS solely run Olympia. So with just BSPS membership you can do RIHS,HOYS and Olympia but not the Juniors/intermediate m&m's(P(UK) ) or the m&m whp(NPS) at RIHS. |
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Post by snowflake on Dec 29, 2011 13:28:08 GMT
NPS only covers MM WHP RIHS quals. BSPS covers all other RIHS quals. PUK covers all HOYS qualifiers, and the RIHS MM Junior ridden quals. Yes you can do HOYS quals under NPS membership. You need to be a BSPS member for Olympia. SIMPLES! |
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Post by iluvmyponies on Dec 30, 2011 17:31:45 GMT
Ahh! Right, ok, think i've got it! Thank you very much guys, been a great help.
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Post by snowflake on Dec 30, 2011 17:34:32 GMT
It's okay Hannah it is very confusing! My Mum and sister always ask me to help fill in the membership forms... |
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Although think you have to carry your membership card around with you for certain qualifiers.
