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Post by maisie23 on Jan 3, 2012 19:11:17 GMT
we have a 2, riding 3 year old who i think may have gone a bit mental  we started to long rein and walk out on the roads etc and he was throughly enjoying his work and although i thought he needed to be doing more (he is just so bored all the time) i left him feeling he had to mature, and seen as he was on 24/7 turnout it wasnt too much of a problem but since oct when he became stabled overnight (yard rule) he has become progrssively more mischevious, naughty and generally a bit more of a handful he has become more aggressive in the field, more bolshy and disresectful towards humans and a lot more energetic he has been occasionally getting out in the middle of the night and everytime a new bolt been added to the door, he now has 4 plus clips and a chain across, he has plenty hay as some is always left in a morning today i got a call to say he he has ripped the whole stable door clean off the wall and eaten everything if i chase him round the arena for ten mins and get him to run the energy off he settles for the day so basically i am asking do you think he is thriving to be worked ? as i know some horses are like this i do feel he has an over active mind and needs occupying do you think its appropriate to start so proper work with him ?? (btw he is gelded ) |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 3, 2012 19:19:51 GMT
What a naughty boy what breed is he?
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Post by TheBooMan on Jan 3, 2012 19:30:49 GMT
It sounds to me like he's just building his energy up over night and as a result he's becoming a cheeky boy  Join up is always good as it gets him gaining respect for you on the floor, as he is young you can start to de-sensitise him to things...set an obstickle (sp!) course up in your menage filled with anything you can find and get him walking over, threw, round, near, standing under it. Always a good idea as it might get him to think to! A friend of mine also put two balls in a haynet and tied it up in the stable for her youngster to play with, so the stable isnt boring. hope that helps? x |
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 3, 2012 19:52:38 GMT
he is a welsh D  and we have done all that already and join up he is fab with, but only in the arena |
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Post by brindlerainbow on Jan 3, 2012 20:01:01 GMT
Leave him out 24/7  |
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 3, 2012 20:20:44 GMT
i cant it is a rule of the yard so the fields dont become to muddy - and i am not prepared to move because the facilities are great, its cheap and convieniet for me
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Post by monkeysocks on Jan 3, 2012 20:48:12 GMT
I have a lot of youngsters that come 2 me like that but with work it calm them down epecially they welsh breed if it was me I would start long reining again as he needs to focus on something.
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Post by speedysally on Jan 3, 2012 21:03:12 GMT
i'd say it's his age and his breed tash! what a little monkey though, how on earth has he managed to get all them bolts of his door?! cheeky boy!X
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Post by sarahp on Jan 3, 2012 21:35:18 GMT
I have one family of Ds who ALL learn to undo the bolts on their doors - easily fixed though by fitting a foot bolt as they can't reach those. None have ever ripped the door off though! What about fitting a grill above the lower door so that he can't put his head through to undo bolts or get his chest to the door to shove it open?
Are you feeding him anything besides the hay?
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Post by ajw on Jan 4, 2012 10:35:20 GMT
Sounds like he is a smart chap! Is he turned out with other horses? I find an older mare will straighten up a young hooligan and if they put him in his place you might find he is a little easier for you.
Turning him out 24/7 will only postpone facing the problem. He has obviously worked out he can get out at will, but at some point he will have to be stabled, or transported, and he has to respect the walls that contain him. Its a really tough one and I feel for you. I'd make sure he has plenty to eat and reinforce the door.....
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Post by ajw on Jan 4, 2012 10:37:37 GMT
BTW I'd also give him a job (so he stops finding his own hobbies). You could lightly back him, or what about horse agility? That would focus his brain and build your relationship.... |
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Post by monkeysocks on Jan 4, 2012 10:59:13 GMT
Try a bardge bar behind the door
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Post by watchbank on Jan 4, 2012 11:39:12 GMT
he sounds like a naughty section d, my mare is 5 and she kicks the walls and doors to be out on a morning, i often come down to the bolt out but the kick bolt still down... i would long lunge him 20-30 mins a day?
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 4, 2012 19:09:32 GMT
he is fed just a balancer and he has bolts from the top to the bottom and he still manages to undo them now he has a chain across the back further in from the door so he cant lean on it he is turned out with both mares and geldings, and although at the begining was knocked down a peg or two he seems to be working his way to the top this is him, you can see how muscley his neck is and he isnt in work at all when this was took  |
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Post by ajw on Jan 4, 2012 19:29:53 GMT
Well i know it's no consolation, but he is a gorgeous hooligan.... ;D
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 4, 2012 19:38:17 GMT
haha thankyou
we have done agility with him over poles and pieces of plastic ect he loved it, maybe doing nothing with him over the winter was a mistake
he will be getting backed in march is the plan
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Post by sarahp on Jan 4, 2012 19:57:17 GMT
Not feed revving him up then. How on earth can he open bolts he can't reach?
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 4, 2012 20:03:13 GMT
he opens the top and middle then leans against the door and prises the bottom open so we put one on in the middle that you have to press the latch up for it to slide across and he just ripped the whole thing out the wood !
he is sooo strong but the chain across so he can exactly get near the door seems to be working at the moment
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Post by country girl on Jan 8, 2012 19:09:20 GMT
maybe he doesnt like being in a stable some horse dont, could the yard where you are, allow you some more ground area so you make a area outside of his stable ie like a corral so he has more room and doesnt feel he has to escape his stable
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 12, 2012 23:39:22 GMT
he settles absolutly fine and some nights his beds hardly moved and you can tell he has been led down and just eating his hay, he stands at the gate by 4 neighing to come in so i dont thiink he doesnt actually want to be in the stable
i am going to start picking up his ground work again i think
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Post by kilnstown on Jan 13, 2012 11:30:09 GMT
I had one who could escape from anywhere to, she just used to quietly tap tap tap on the door till the bolts worked loose, she also used to lift the gates off in the field of she wanted to get out by turning her head sideways to fit through the bars then lifting it off its hinges, no panic at all when this is taking place then she would quietly tootle around the farm just generally being nosey, also a welsh cob, very clever ponies. Good luck with your ground work sounds like he needs something to occupy his mind.
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Post by jackdaniels on Jan 13, 2012 12:17:40 GMT
what about it you get up there first in the morning to let him out before the others arrive? my d doesn t like being one of the last out in the morning, he undoes doors too have two clips and bottom bolt now he unties haynet and throws water and feed buckets out and his jolly ball they are all in a pile outside his stable!!
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Post by sageandonion on Jan 13, 2012 12:20:04 GMT
A clip on the bolt so it cannot be undone plus a great big blob of sticky cribox.
I think he sounds like the type that needs to be taught his place in a herd environment and the only answer may be to move him to a yard which offers the turnout. The current yard may suit you but if it doesn't suit him the situation will become worse, possibly intolerable. A mischievious strong section D may initially be amusing, particularly if he has a pretty face, but later on .........
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Post by brt on Jan 13, 2012 15:10:14 GMT
If he has become bolshy in the field, it may be that he feels he has to continually mark his place in the pecking order every time he goes out.
On all the other stuff, personally i think he's just a typical D, once he has a full time job i'm sure he'll have other things on his mind...
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 15, 2012 19:15:10 GMT
he goes out one of the first and he is out for about 10 hours so he has no excuse, started doing some free schooling and natural horseman ship with him and he seems better although he did think we was playing tig and that it would be amusing the grab my hood and pull me backwards hehe
deffo a typical D :L
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Post by randombadger on Jan 17, 2012 1:02:40 GMT
This is an age thing........ pushing his luck. My D went through it. I find ground work and walks out really helped. Gave him something to mull over when he was all shattered and locked up. I also gave him logs and toys to kill. :-)
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Post by LEC on Jan 17, 2012 11:57:06 GMT
I have a D who can be abit bolshy, not that bad but still hard work. i Put her on Magnitude which seemed to take the edge off her. I would also start to work him a few times a week but only if he is mature enough to do it, if hes not pysically ready you could cause more problems. Get lots of toys and maybe a big peice of wood to chew, maybe hide mints in his stable to keep him amused. babys hey! x
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Post by rubydoo on Jan 17, 2012 19:22:13 GMT
sounds like hes very intelligent and craving a bit of stimulation , try a ball over nigh with some pony nut in or hide bits of fruit and vet in his bed an nets . i would try to get him out for at least an hour a day youngster need some time to play.
im sure it just the time of year , come summer he will be a lazy lump hth
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 17, 2012 19:44:59 GMT
he is out for like 10 hours and has a ball at night with more than plenty haylage
think its just a phase we'll have to work through
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