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Post by speedysally on Jan 10, 2012 16:30:59 GMT
well to cut a long story short i've got a very strong welsh section d mare and she is getting in to a really bad habit of tanking off with me, by this i mean speeding up her trot and breaking into a full on canter, i've tried basically everything i can think of! rised slower in my trot, done 20 metre circles and serpentines but she just always wants to rush off, I've been recommended a bitless bridle as they apply pressure on to the nose and then when i do adventually put her bit back in she will instantly behave herself and listen to me? i've never used one and stuff so was just wondering if they work and if they are useful, thanks laura.
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Post by auntiebarb on Jan 10, 2012 17:00:11 GMT
Try a Dr Cook bitless bridle, I will lend you one to try if you live in the Midlands. I have a nutty appaloosa gelding who pulled like a train when I got him. I am an OAP and must have been mad to take to him after I borrowed him as a loan companion. He is a total saint now, the Dr Cook bridle does not hurt him it just hugs his head. He still gets strong but I can hold him if I need to. PLEASE try a Dr Cook, look it up on Google, it is all there in scientific detail.
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Post by speedysally on Jan 10, 2012 17:21:09 GMT
ahh right i see, thankyou for reccomending it to me! and i don't live anywhere near the midlands :-( i'm in the north west!X
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Post by dsmum on Jan 12, 2012 18:33:41 GMT
My old cob was the same put her in an english hackamore and she loved it (and so did I?).
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Post by speedysally on Jan 12, 2012 19:19:08 GMT
oh good good :-)
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Post by jennipenny on Jan 13, 2012 0:09:03 GMT
I use a hackamore when out hacking my mare as she's is ridiculously strong even in her pelham when out and about x we now have pleasurable rides for both me and her as its not a constant fight she listens and much prefers the hackamore x only isuue I had with it x is if she does have a speedy moment then she is a little difficult to steer in the hackamore rather than with a bit x
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Post by GinaGeo on Jan 14, 2012 0:02:10 GMT
For the right horse in the right situation. Mum's pony always jumped alot better in a hackamore, so that's what we used. I tried my hackamore on my horse and stopping was "fun" I found he leant on it, whereas in his loose ring snaffle he doesn't. Horse's for courses!  I too found steering was compromised, I found I had to ride with much wider and lower hands than normal. |
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Post by maisie23 on Jan 15, 2012 19:10:05 GMT
when i went to view a horse it was ridden in a hackamore and it was soooooo strong, and the more you pulled to slow down it just brought its head further and further in without reducing the speed, its now ridden in a wilkinson bit wich applies pressure with the aid of a bit and she goes fab
i suppose different things work for different horses
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Post by dippymare on Jan 15, 2012 19:35:54 GMT
do the people who ride in an english hackamore use neck reining? or steer as normal?
I have one for my very strong mare to try her in it, but it has sat all winter and never been on her as im too affraid to try, will possibly put aa bit on a head peice with an extra rein for back up first time. :/
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Post by GinaGeo on Jan 16, 2012 17:28:31 GMT
My horse's have never been ridden through neck reining and wouldn't understand it. I just rode normally albeit with wider, lower hands to over emphasis the aid. It is delayed and gives a very different "feel" to riding in a bit.
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Post by willow001 on Jan 16, 2012 17:40:57 GMT
I use bitless bridles on my mare and I use a scawbrig to long rein my youngster until I bit him. I use a scawbrig on the mare for hacking and an English hackamore if jumping. I agree that on some horses you do find steering isn't so great but she is quite sensitive so works perfectly for her
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Post by speedysally on Jan 17, 2012 20:25:48 GMT
yeah, mine's just for my pony who's started to become very strong indeed! she's not naughty, just strong, i think a hackamore sounds good but they sound too severe!
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Post by speedysally on Jan 17, 2012 20:26:06 GMT
could just be me being a wimp though, haha
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Post by willow001 on Jan 20, 2012 21:18:38 GMT
Not severe if used correctly and fitted properly. Like any bit they can be harsh in the wrong hands. You need to get your horse used to working off nose and poll pressure too if not already used to it
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Post by rhosyn on Jan 21, 2012 12:38:23 GMT
It sounds like an evasion tactic - my daughter's pony used to do it. After getting everything checked out health and saddle wise, we fixed it by telling her that if the pony decided to go faster, take it, and keep him in a BALANCED canter. When he wanted to voluntarily slow down he was asked to continue in the canter for longer than he had originally planned. This is of course only of any use if she isn't doing a full on tank off in a small confined area.
After literally one session of doing this, along with lots of walk, halt, walk trot, walk, halt transitions he's never done it since, thank god!
Too many people resorting to bitting up or stronger means without having a ponder from the horse's point of view. There's no shame in going back a step or two with schooling or anything at all really when it comes to horses.
(Don't mean to sound pompous)
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Post by speedysally on Jan 21, 2012 14:45:28 GMT
so true willow001 and no, you're 100% correct rhosyn!X
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I too found steering was compromised, I found I had to ride with much wider and lower hands than normal.
