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Post by carlybof on Feb 18, 2012 0:39:22 GMT
I am riding a horse for a lady on my yard, I can't decide if he is a native or traditional cob? What is the actual difference and are there separate classes for them at county and affiliated showing? I don't know a lot about coloureds as I'm into my welshes so hope someone can help me out here is a picture of him
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snowflake
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Post by snowflake on Feb 18, 2012 0:46:30 GMT
IMO he's a Native because he hasn't got as much feather as a Traditional should. He also looks like a 'Native' type. He's lovely btw! Traditional - Should be a gypsy cob, good bone, & lots of feather. Native - Coloured, but should look like a Native Type, eg your's looks more like a Section D because he hasn't got as much feather as a traditional should. Natives & Traditional Coloured's are often mixed. Some people will like him as a traditional but IMO he is a stunning native, just because for me I love my Traditionals with lots of feather. Good luck he's stunning. Start by joining CHAPS &/or BSPA.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Feb 18, 2012 8:54:33 GMT
On the fence on that one as he has the limbs of a traditional with the feather coverage of a native ....................
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Post by carlybof on Feb 18, 2012 10:07:02 GMT
Thanks snowflake, I seem to think that maybe he has been hogged and had all his feathers took off as his mane is much thicker than that now as it hasn't been touched for a while, he has more feather and a massive forelock, but I just don't think it's enough to be a traditional against all the ones with the massive feathers etc, he has the bone as he is a right chunky thing haha
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Post by merrymooxx on Feb 18, 2012 11:19:36 GMT
he looks like a traditional because he hasnt got as much feather as a traditional and i agree with snowflake start by joining chaps or bspa hope this helps x
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Post by Tywood on Feb 18, 2012 11:41:05 GMT
In my opinion, he has the bone and substance of a traditional and if he has in the past been hogged and trimmed his feathers may lengthen, a traditional should have hair covering the wall of the hoof and start at the back of the knee, a native does not have the hair covering the hoof and the feather is just at the fetlock, like a sec D. At the moment he is a little inbetween, but I would say he is more on the traditional side, as far as type.
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Post by carlybof on Feb 19, 2012 1:09:27 GMT
Here's a more recent image of him, he looks more traditional than native on this I think
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Post by supercowpony on Feb 26, 2012 11:17:15 GMT
he definitely looks like a traditional to me. He may just not have a huge amount of feather, but if he is of a correct type with good conformation he could still do well.
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Post by snowflake on Feb 26, 2012 21:28:26 GMT
Yes I thought he had a traditional body, but tbh in the Traditionals the more feather the better! Most of the time the traditionals & the natives are mixed anyway so the judge can make their own mind up on him.
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Post by arrogorn on Feb 26, 2012 21:38:07 GMT
Traddy, hes not refinded enough for a native. They are in the same class anyway so doesnt matter. Let his mane grow down more
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Post by klouisem on Feb 27, 2012 13:49:41 GMT
I would say Traditional, he's heavy in the body and legs, good bone.
Hmm, yes, I see were people are coming from with 'no much feather so native' maybe try some hair growth lotions if you think he's previously been hogged/clipped out.
IMO he's too heavy for a native...
By the way he's verrrry cute!
Best of luck.
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Post by dsmum on Feb 27, 2012 16:56:46 GMT
he is def a traditional. For the definitive definition of the breed standard go to the TGCA website. This society if for traditionals of all colours and hold their own championship show as well. CHAPS and BSPA are also worthwhile.........but hes def not a native
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