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Post by igglepiggle on Mar 5, 2012 22:41:56 GMT
Hi there We have a section A who is forwards when out hacking , in outdoor school etc but as soon as we get into the show ring with other ponies he becomes very stuffy and hard work for our first ridden jockey! it is almost like a form of napping when with others in the ring! Our poor daughter huffs and puffs but when he has his mind set there really is no budging!! any ideas/tips greatly appreciated. p.s he hacks out between 2/3 times a week and his schooling is fairly limited!
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Post by LMSmith on Mar 6, 2012 9:16:41 GMT
Do you ride with others when schooling or is he schooled on his own all the time? Try and replicate what happens in a small showing class at home to see if he does the same thing?
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 6, 2012 9:32:37 GMT
Hacking and schooling are entirely different unless you actually school on hacks which is unlikely with a little child, pony may be as stiff as a board. School regularly so pony is supple and responsive.
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Post by GinaGeo on Mar 6, 2012 12:41:38 GMT
Are you changing the bit for the ring? This sounds quite characteristic of a Wilkie? I'd agree with S&O, it's very hard for little ones to totally correct a ponies way of going. I'd be tempted to get the long lines out and make sure he's responsive and you could school this way, without boring the child. If he's only like it in the ring then is it a confidence issue? He may well be napping to the others. If that's the case I'd perhaps look at hiring a school and having a mock show with friends, to practise. Hard to say without seeing it, but they're my immediate thoughts
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Post by sarahp on Mar 6, 2012 15:27:50 GMT
We used to do mock shows with young horses - OK we were grown ups not children but very good for both horses and riders.
Having group lessons might help - what about going to Pony Club and working with others there? Great fun and social too.
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Post by Em5 on Mar 9, 2012 8:05:22 GMT
I had this with my daughters old pony, looked into his past and he'd been over shown as a youngster and not treated the best. But put him in working hunter and he went like a dream. I would be careful not too do too many classes at your shows and if he likes jumping why not try warming up over a jump see if it puts a spring in his step before entering the ring.
I sadly sold our pony to someone that wanted to just have lots of fun and jumping, as my daughter prefers schooling and showing. I do miss him though.
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Post by larkhaven on Mar 9, 2012 9:31:07 GMT
How old is he? Sounds more as though he is a bit scared in company - even my B stallion was inclined to 'back off' in the ring especially if he was overtaken.He would get quite tense and bunch himself up. I am lucky to have a very experienced rider for him, and she worked hard to keep him in a good space where he could see what was going on, and could avoid him being blocked in or cut up. He got better and better, and now loves to be in the ring.
Not sure how much showing your daughter has done, but might be worth getting a jockey with good 'ringcraft' to give him a few outings.
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Post by igglepiggle on Mar 12, 2012 20:07:18 GMT
Thanks for all your help He is schooled with and without others and we try to school him whenw e hit open fields on hacks as well. When we go to shows he is great in the collecting ring and moves forwards but as soon as it comes to the individual show in the ring he just becomes dead to her leg He is so forwards at home and also out hacking. We have only done 3 shows in the last 6 months. It is really putting the jockey off showing now as she finds it a bit humiliating and embarassing in the ring! He was in a wilkie and we tried changing the bit but no difference. He was witha producer and went to RIHS and qualified for HOYS as a 5 year old.....do you think he is just telling us no more showing?? x
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Post by ilovebuckroox on Mar 12, 2012 20:19:41 GMT
I'm not sure what type your pony is, or how old the jockey is... but what is he like with a bigger/older jockey on? He sounds like he is taking the micky as it is in her individual show.
My first thought was that he was being 'lazy' without the others, but as you said he is schooled on his own also that rules that option out. Which leaves either napping or he is fed up of showing.
I would practice at home with others doing mock shows too, and if he does the same due to napping perhaps a few taps with the stick would make him think twice? I'm not saying batter the poor pony of course! If he is napping then this would do the trick. However, like others said he may be bored of showing, you could try popping him over some jumps, troting poles... anything interesting to cheer him up again.
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