pessoa or john whittaker training aid???

[ballywildrick]

Is there much difference in them and what would you recommend?

Thanks

[bettyboo]

Have used them both and find them very similar - personally we got the John Whittaker because we found it easeir to change fit on it but also because it was cheaper and comes with a roller as well.

[LMSmith]

They are very similar and as far as I am aware they do a very similar thing

[ballywildrick]

Does the John Whittaker Roller fit a 12hh pony

[thimble]

Just bought a John Whittaker and thrilled with it and the roller is fab. I think you would be hard pushed to adjust it to fit a 12 hh though.

[mellibobs]

It would fit a 12 hander if you punched holes through the roller as i use it on my sec a stallion hes 11.2..

[Grace1991]

I bought a pessoa from robinsons and found it really good. I have used it on small ponies too.

[thecremellosociety]

have a pony size proper pessoa, they do come in 2 sizes had a fae one which did the jobbut did allow them to lean on the bit as no pulleys defieating the self carraige training, sohappier now have the real deal, i use a half roller with any size girth attached x

[lisadundee]

I had a pessoa and I borrowed my friends Whittaker and after using her Whittaker I sold my Pessoa and bought a Whittaker x

[ballywildrick]

Hi again folks thanks for the advise. Just another question with the actual lines used on the systems do you adjust the size of them to fit a pony? I have seen the pessoa comes in pony size and the jw is one size fits all and just trying to imagine how the ropes fit. Thanks in advance x

[joojoo]

I have had whittaker for years and used on ponies the lines shorten to fit ponies although there is quite a bit of excess which I just tie up if the roller is too big you could pad out with thick numnah polly pad my ponies have both been 12.2 and has fitted them correctly

[piaffe]

Derby house do their own version I Paid £45 for it and the roller is great, good if you are only using it for one horse as its a bit of a faff to alter it but an excellent alternative!

[Grace1991]

I bought mine from robinsons and you can adjust it to fit any size

[ballywildrick]

Thanks everyone. I got the JW and got extra holes punched into roller. Lines had to have a couple of knots it but its a great job.

[satchmo]

I have the John whittaker training system and use it on my daughters 11.2hh pony and my 15hh cob, i have a different coloured electric tape for each pony and just adjust it to them depending on who is using it.