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Post by willow001 on Mar 11, 2012 18:07:09 GMT
Hi. Not sure if this is the right section to put this query. I am completely new to the inhand showing seen. I took my then 2 year old out last year to 3 local shows and got placed in 6/7 classes. The comments were generally he was a nice sort but as a youngster couldn't compete against more mature horses and he lacks topline. He will be 3 in may and i am planning to show him again this year. We did the youngstock, coloured and partbred classes. I have no idea of his breeding as he came from the sales in poor condition and his passport says unknown. Below is a photo of him at 15 months when i took him on and then at our first show last august. My questions are what should i be wearing when showing him, what should he be wearing, what sort of classes would he be ok in and how should he be turned out? Thanks for any help which will be most appreciated
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Post by stumpedmum on Mar 11, 2012 18:34:27 GMT
someone else would be much better yo give you advice on turnout, but just wanted to say wow what a difference!! good luck
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Post by jeanslater on Mar 11, 2012 18:41:32 GMT
Firstly get rid of that terrible white headcollar and buy a nice bridle, white headcollars are ok on native(mainly welsh) but not coloureds. show him with full mane and tail just as you have been doing, he has done well condition wise, so as a 3 yr old should do you proud, well done you!
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Post by willow001 on Mar 11, 2012 18:50:43 GMT
Thanks. Only reason i used that was someone told me to and i didn't want to bit him til this year. Would it be a brown or black bridle. Plain browband or coloured. What type of bridle?
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Post by silvester on Mar 11, 2012 19:07:30 GMT
I'd say trim him up and plait him up as a hunter type. I wouldn't do part bred as you don't actually know his breeding! But def do youngstock and coloured, use a nice leather bridle, either colour. But yes what a transformation!!
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Post by welsh69 on Mar 11, 2012 19:10:53 GMT
black inhand bridle, less detail on leather as possible and wow you have done an amazing job on him!!! xx
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2012 19:14:48 GMT
Yep as said before plait and trim him up
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Post by flo1 on Mar 11, 2012 19:20:06 GMT
Wow! What a transformation. He certainly scrubs up well Definately show him trimmed and plaited, not with a full mane and tail as he doesn't have enough feather or bone to be shown 'native'. I'd wear dark coloured trousers, a shirt and tie and either a plain waistcoat or a tweed jacket. A judge should be able to judge fairly between a youngster and a more mature animal so his age shouldn't be an issue in coloured classes. You would do well in youngstock classes. Difficult to tell from one photo but how big is he? He'll put on topline once he's ridden and working, best not to force the issue before then, too much feed will only put on fat not muscle and can only be detrimental to his growth. You've done well with him, keep up the good work and good luck with the season
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Post by bow1607 on Mar 11, 2012 19:21:38 GMT
Brown in hand bridle, black tack isn't correct.............. what a transformation! Wishing you the best of luck!!!!
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Post by welsh69 on Mar 11, 2012 19:21:47 GMT
white shirt - any tie, i would say dark blue - black waste coat - smart black pants and any shies that you can run in and turn him out as he is but you could plat his man and tail the night before then let it out so its all curley and he can and you could do coulered classes and chaps and young stock xx good luck keep us posted xx
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Post by elmere on Mar 11, 2012 19:27:18 GMT
Yes I agree, that mane has to go and get him plaited up, doesnt have enough bone and substance for a native type. Plain brown bridle with your choice of bit and make sure you have dark trousers.
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Post by willow001 on Mar 11, 2012 19:30:24 GMT
Thanks for everyones replies. He's approx 13,2 on withers and bum high so still growing i guess. If the general concensus is trimmed and plaited what is an appropriate length for the tail to be and exactly what would i trim? Sorry for all the questions but i really am not sure.
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Post by network on Mar 11, 2012 19:31:12 GMT
He looks lovely, you have done well with him. Definately pull and plait his mane and tail, and take his feathers off, would make a lovely hunter type. Plain workman like brown bridle with a leather lead. You need to be in dark trousers/cords, tweed jacket or waistcoat, certainly wouldnt go for a black waistcoat I think red always looks nice and smart, shirt and tie colour of your choice. As others have said youngstock classes, PB classes and coloured classes. He looks in good condition for his age and I certainly wouldnt be looking to add anymore weight, the condition will come as he gets older and does more exercise. Good luck with him
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Post by Sasha on Mar 11, 2012 19:32:48 GMT
Definitely brown tack, black is not right in showing
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Post by elmere on Mar 11, 2012 19:46:22 GMT
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Post by welsh69 on Mar 11, 2012 22:58:09 GMT
oh, i use a black bridle on my pony and a judge has never made a bad comment :/
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Post by elmere on Mar 11, 2012 23:04:30 GMT
oh, i use a black bridle on my pony and a judge has never made a bad comment :/ Tbh you cant really tell between havana and black, I use black on one but brown on most, its whatever suits your pony but I would say for a coloured brown will suit.
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Post by nici on Mar 11, 2012 23:32:36 GMT
Agree with the general consensus - he needs to be trimmed and plaited.
Feathers off, beard off, mane pulled to thin and shorten for plaiting. Tail pulled and banged so it ends just below his hocks when he's moving (remember he will lift it up a little when moving, so don't chop too short).
Leather inhand bridle, plain as possible. You can get them bitless if you don't want to bit him yet.
For you, dark trousers, shoes for running in, pastel shirt, tweed jacket, tie to coordinate with tweed and shirt. Brown gloves, carry a show cane. Oh and a hat - either a riding hat, tweed trilby or flat cap or an Aussie wax type hat are typically seen.
Lovely pony, looks a million times better than in the first photo, well done and good luck x
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Post by stormyskies on Mar 12, 2012 11:37:35 GMT
oh, i use a black bridle on my pony and a judge has never made a bad comment :/ Lol, mine went to HOYS and was placed in black tack ;D
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Post by flo1 on Mar 13, 2012 13:14:18 GMT
There is more black tack appearing on the showring in recent times, but some judges do frown against it..black tack is for dressage Someone mentioned a red waistcoat *thumbsup*, that would look just right.
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Post by nici on Mar 13, 2012 13:35:14 GMT
Some people choose black tack because it suits their pony better. The judge should surely be judging hte pony, not the colour of the tack, as long as it doesn't detract from the picture. However if in doubt, brown (havana) tack is always correct, whatever colour your pony.
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Post by vikki85 on Mar 13, 2012 13:52:40 GMT
What a good job you have done, he looks fab!
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Post by willow001 on Mar 13, 2012 22:29:12 GMT
Thanks everyone for your replies. What classes other than novice, coloured and youngstock could he do? Could I just wear dark trousers, shirt, tie and waistcoat rather than a jacket as I get really hot?
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Post by vikki85 on Mar 14, 2012 13:38:44 GMT
Perhaps hunter type?
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Post by elmere on Mar 14, 2012 17:10:33 GMT
Thanks everyone for your replies. What classes other than novice, coloured and youngstock could he do? Could I just wear dark trousers, shirt, tie and waistcoat rather than a jacket as I get really hot? Yes I think a waistcoat suits in hand a little more anyway. I have a tartan one as I have Highlands but you could get a nice tweed one and flat cap to match.
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Post by willow001 on Mar 15, 2012 0:25:47 GMT
Where's a good place to get showing waistcoats and caps etc?
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Post by welsh69 on Apr 5, 2012 12:56:21 GMT
oh, i use a black bridle on my pony and a judge has never made a bad comment :/ Lol, mine went to HOYS and was placed in black tack ;D hahah but how black tack isnt right in showing
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Post by nia2311 on Apr 5, 2012 14:01:57 GMT
Where's a good place to get showing waistcoats and caps etc? Check out your local charity shop - plenty of such things in there, often in good nick and of good quality if it has come from the home of an elderly person and a fraction of the price buying new from equestrian suppliers.
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Post by showingfanatic on Apr 11, 2012 23:37:17 GMT
Agree with the general ideas above, feathers off, beard trimmed, mane pulled and plaited, tail pulled and banged (cut straight across) i generally find if you hold up the tail and place an arm under the tailbone between tail and bum, this will indicate the length the tail will appear when carried, it should be cut to fall a bit below the hocks. Tack wise, nice plain brown inhand bridle, workman-like with a flat noseband+browband and a little snaffle. I would wear dark coloured trousers to contrast his legs so's the judge can see his legs clearly when you run him out, light coloured shirt, brown leather gloves, tie to match a smart, plain waistcoat/tweed jacket and matching flat cap or the likes. Oh and don't forget comfortable shoes you can actually run in! ;D As for classes, he could do inhand show hunter pony classes in addition to coloured and youngstock. Good luck x
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