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Post by carrie17491 on Mar 13, 2012 11:56:55 GMT
He may be uncomfotable through his back and so over compensating to releive the pain.
Does the tack fit? I don't like waterford bits personally. I would have any of mine in a french link snaffle. You don't say how old your horse is?
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sarahp
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Post by sarahp on Mar 13, 2012 12:02:25 GMT
It sounds to me as if he's ducking behind the bit to avoid the contact, although difficult to diagnose without seeing you both together.
I've found waterfords useful in certain circumstances, but in this case would go to a kinder bit to encourage him to go forward into the contact. I'm a great fan of double jointed snaffles too. Must admit though, being old and a bit purist, I can never see the point of a jointed pelham as the joint negates the action of the pelham anyway.
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Post by sally1 on Mar 13, 2012 14:11:28 GMT
Sounds to me like he is evading the bit by going behind the contact and if that is the case then he is certainly not working through from his backend. Why are you using a waterford bit when he is so light in the mouth? As far as I am aware the main use of a waterford is to stop a horse leaning on the bit which from what you say your horse is not doing. I would suggest that you change to a double jointed snaffle and then encourage him to work into the contact.
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Post by sageandonion on Mar 13, 2012 19:48:13 GMT
Your horse is not 'light', he is not taking the contact. Ditch the waterford and use an ordinary snaffle.
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dazycutter
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Post by dazycutter on Mar 13, 2012 19:52:28 GMT
Sounds like a typical evasion. Softer bit and stronger leg to push him up into his bridle. They are little monkeys aren't they
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Post by beautifulboy on Mar 13, 2012 22:05:47 GMT
if he still does this in the snaffle sounds stupid but i used to ride my pony without my reins, it worked for me! also longreining helped for me i was also told riding in a headcollar! ?
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Post by tabbyx on Mar 13, 2012 22:17:39 GMT
sounds like he's avoiding the contact, probably because the waterford is to strong for him. Change from the waterford to a french link eggbutt or french link loose ring, much softer bit to encourage your horse to take the contact.
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Post by vikki85 on Mar 14, 2012 7:59:29 GMT
Agree with all of the above. Once you've tried changing his bit, ride him forward and up into the bridle, you can lift your outside rein straight upwards (but not backwards) a little every time he goes overbent, this will help him lift his head. I also usually come down a pace if they start to become overbent and ask for another upwards transition.
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Post by snowflake on Mar 15, 2012 20:16:16 GMT
Sounds like he doesn't like the bit he's in, & is trying to avoid contact. Remember the Waterford is a fairly severe bit - a welshie or horse with a thicker tounge may take the pressure better, than say a TB type.
Try Nue Schule we've had several 'baby' ponies who've tried to avoid contacts on normal snaffles & they love the sweet iron bits that Nue Schule do. Anything like that, or a French Link, etc.
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