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Post by lulah on Mar 29, 2012 10:58:31 GMT
not sure if this post is gonna start a war!
hopefully it doesnt!
i was just wondering -what is parrelli?! (i know that little about it , im probaly not even spelling it right!)
i just want to get a basic understanding on what it is, how it differs from monty roberts style training, and some of the actual training method it involes?
i dont really practise any NH as such, i just kinda use my own common sense and feel to determine my horses way of going and understand his body language or if something doesnt feel right.
but ive seen alot of people against parrelli and was wondering what all the fuss is about?
i know a man down our yard who is into parrelli and gets his horse in a pressure type halter and very long rope , he then appears to let his horse just run circles round him - or walk about 5 foot away from him when hes is leading in from the feild.
is that parelli??!
with my horse i like him to walk next to me - shoulder to shoulder - and match my speed. after lots of consistent training (just my own methods!) he is now very good at it and something i am very proud of.
i dont want this conversation to be about who is "right" i just want to understand it more!
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Post by B_31 on Mar 29, 2012 11:09:20 GMT
If your really serious about it then i suggest you get yourself a good qualified instructor.... Not someone who just has a go and thinks joinup solves everything... personally... i hate it. There are plenty of other method which do not cost money for DVD's to play games...! To do parelli wrong (trust me) can seriously mess a horse up.... if it aint broke dont fix it  good luck. |
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Post by lulah on Mar 29, 2012 11:30:58 GMT
oh i wasnt even thinking about trying it - i do i guess what you call "classical" training.
i was just wondering what sort of things they do , thier training methods?? ive never seen any sort of parrelli.
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Post by B_31 on Mar 29, 2012 11:39:48 GMT
its the 7 games.... basically you work through them in stages (my understanding) and different levels.... My old horse was schooled using natural horsemanship... which isnt AS bad... I dont think you can beat normal schooling methods though, hence why i dont like parelli. have a look on youtube.... you will see some stuff on there |
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Post by sarahp on Mar 29, 2012 11:40:51 GMT
It's a training system developed and marketed by Pat Parelli - American I think? I'm sure if you google it you will find lots about it on the internet, but from what I can gather it does seem to rely heavily on playing games with your horse and buying lots of the correct equipment from them.
It is very different to Monty Roberts, where the emphasis is on communicating with your horse in a way it can understand and developing mutual trust.
All I can say is that the only horse I've had any dealings with that had been Parelli'd was a disaster area - bargy, bad mannered, impossible to catch and considered itself boss over me. It was only on loan so I'm afraid it went straight back, I didn't feel safe around it. It may of course just have been how that particular owner had dealt with it.
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Post by lulah on Mar 29, 2012 11:59:00 GMT
thanks for your replies - im deffo going to youtube it .
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Post by B_31 on Mar 29, 2012 12:07:10 GMT
yep as sarahp said - monty roberts is a better way forward |
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Post by bundle on Mar 29, 2012 13:55:21 GMT
The Parellis are the masters of hype and marketing. Apart from getting yourself a good qualified instructor also hopefully have a friendly bank manager because it is going to cost you a fortune!
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Post by bennybee on Mar 29, 2012 19:18:25 GMT
I use a parelli halter and rope on my horse. he isn't bargy or strong in anyway i just prefer them, the long ropes are great too. I've been shown how to use it and really do think they are great. The person who helped me practices NH methods in his day to day working with horses he isnt totally parelli orientated just uses there halters. I like parelli to an extent and i think i prefer it more than monty but i think there both a bit hyped up and full of them selves. Chris Cox has a programme on horse and country and i think he is really good. also there josh and john lyons stuff on youtube which i quite like. I dunno thats my opinion on the whole parellie/NH stuff! |
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Post by tabbyx on Mar 29, 2012 22:35:35 GMT
Wouldn't touch it with a barge pole tbh, dangerous and a waste of time and money!
Monty Roberts I have alot more time for, I have seen his methods used and have used join up with my own and I have to say it does work, but in my mind nothing beats good old fashioned schooling!
Kelly Marks is good as is Richard Maxwell but I'm still not completely sold on the idea.
The two horses I know that were trained with Parelli, one nearly killed his owner and the other was an absolute pig, he was bargy in the stable, would bite,kick etc. was known to suddenly spin his backend inwards on the lunge, scoot backwards and try to double barrel you in the face no matter what you did, no warning either, would be going round really nicely then all of a sudden come at you! had his owner in hospital with facial and head injuries once or twice!
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Post by B_31 on Mar 29, 2012 22:40:16 GMT
as above tabbyx....
ive met a couple of lovely horses and a few not so good ones with parelli....
overall bad experience and to me its just training a horse tricks...........not natural horsemanship!
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Post by showingfanatic on Mar 29, 2012 22:43:06 GMT
Remember watching a Parelli demo at a large show jumping event once, can't remember the name, British something or other, anyway, I just didn't really get it if im honest and the horses looked just as confused as I was! Having observed a few people learning and practising Parelli, I can safely say it's really not my thing, some of the methods are nothing short of shocking and they've received a heck of a lot of bad publicity!!
Monty Roberts/IH, now that makes sense.
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Post by crimsoncloverep on Mar 30, 2012 14:07:05 GMT
I know alot of people swear by it, but in my experience, I don't rate it.
One of my youngsters went from bad to worse after help with a parelli instructor and a young girl at our stables got an instructor who thought she knew about parelli work on their mare- after two weeks the girl was terrified of the horse and the horse was rearing and just as terrified. Evidently, the instructor did not have clue.
Don't do parelli if you are not certain of what to do- even then I am sceptical of it...
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Post by klouisem on Mar 30, 2012 18:09:12 GMT
I don't like it. I do however swear by Monty Roberts! I use to join up technique with my old very nervous new forest and several other nervous/young ponies and it really works. I feel the way he does things is a lot better and parelli can easily go wrong and as above comments have said and it takes 2 seconds to brake a bond with a horse and a life time to build.
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Post by crimsoncloverep on Mar 30, 2012 20:23:30 GMT
I also think that parelli has become way too commercial, the amount of 'stuff' they encourage you to buy is unreal- I mean, really: inflatable green balls!?!
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Post by colourz on Mar 30, 2012 22:27:37 GMT
If I had my way I would ban parelli, now maybe I am making that judgement upon the few people I know who use it, but how their horses behave is beyond a joke, and dangerous, the horses are rude,bolshy and generally not nice animals to be around, the owners are pompus and wont listen to any other methods, I personally use a lot of Monty Roberts methods and it works well, grr Parelli!!
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Post by workingcob on Mar 31, 2012 12:01:07 GMT
I like parelli to an extent and i think i prefer it more than monty but i think there both a bit hyped up and full of them selves I'm just wondering - have you met Monty Roberts? Just wondering how you know he's 'full of himself'?  It's no exaggeration to say he has transformed the lives of tens of thousand of horses around the world, either directly or via people taking up his methods - or even just getting the message that there are better ways of training your horse than using violence or aggression. But setting that aside, there's no call to make personal comments about individuals in a discussion of training methods. Just my opinion |
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