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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 5:59:59 GMT
Hi, i have a 14year old cob, when we walk i can get her head in perfectly (i squeeze my hands like sponges) but when i set of in trot and going round in trot she sticks her head out and i have my hands in the same place and squeezing like sponge(same as walk).  Please HELP! we just need to sort that out, then we can go out and compete  thanks x |
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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 6:03:07 GMT
With out using any side reins etc x
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Post by thecremellosociety on Apr 23, 2012 6:31:22 GMT
You need to ride her forward and into her bridle and not force it down, time and school and deffo not gadgets !
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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 7:18:41 GMT
Thank you!
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Post by Smurffx on Apr 23, 2012 8:10:40 GMT
It will come in time... Lungeing in a Pessoa will help to get the horse moving correctly and will start to work the muscles needed to work that way as at present it won't have muscle in the right places. Don't do too much too soon either and make sure the horse is well worked in before asking anything new of him
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Post by rubydoo on Apr 23, 2012 14:01:56 GMT
the pony will have to be working correctly from behind to acheive this , you should be doing lots of transitions walk-trot , trot -walk , and leg yeilding to help soften .
riding a small circle at each corner of the school can be helpful.
try sponging only the inside rein while keeping a contact on the outside rien.
do you have an instuctor ?
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Post by angelena on Apr 23, 2012 16:15:44 GMT
Good advise there Jaimie. Lots of transitions is what she needs, I would also try figure of eights and serpentines, to get a good balanced horse |
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Post by flo1 on Apr 23, 2012 17:03:33 GMT
Agree with the replies above, lots of walk/trot, trot/walk transitions will help to get the pony's back end working properly. If you sort the back end out , the front will sort it's self out  definately no 'quick fix' gadgets  |
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Post by GinaGeo on Apr 23, 2012 18:44:49 GMT
Get yourself sorted out with a good instructor. They'll be able to tell you exactly what you and your pony need to do.
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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 18:47:14 GMT
there is an instructor at my yard, there is only me on and the people who own the stables then the instructor looks after one of the owners, so i hardly see them but im going to get lessons off her. Will try it what you have all said, thank you VERY much everyone!!xx
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Post by threekids on Apr 23, 2012 18:51:03 GMT
i would try the pessoa long and low twice a week and get her back working, or long rein as easy and all you need is two lunge lines. when she is working properly from behind her head will drop
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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 18:55:01 GMT
whats pessoa?sorry x
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Post by desktop on Apr 23, 2012 19:11:57 GMT
I would suggest that you get yourself an instructor to not only show you how to work your horse correctly to achieve the outline you are looking for, but to also show you how to use a Pessoa as they are not an easy too to use and can cause more harm if you use without knowing what you are doing A Pessoa is a training aid to help the horse work long and low, and to engage their hind quarters encouraging working forward and into the bridle. Sorry but as you have also posted on how to get an arched neck on your horse I really do think you need to get yourself some lessons |
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Post by katie214 on Apr 23, 2012 20:11:55 GMT
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 23, 2012 20:22:58 GMT
Echo above, you need an instructor.
I could not get on with a pessoa and my mare couldn't either. You should also have lessons in how to lunge correctly.
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Post by desktop on Apr 23, 2012 20:29:15 GMT
Link doesnt work, can only assume you have a privacy setting on your FB account where only your friends can view pictures |
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Post by katie214 on Apr 24, 2012 7:01:20 GMT
I know how to lunge her properly, the teacher has shown me that, i will change my sestting on facebook now, thanks x
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Post by katie214 on Apr 24, 2012 7:03:36 GMT
please try now on the photo, she is being lunged my the teacher on that.x
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Post by desktop on Apr 24, 2012 7:42:54 GMT
please try now on the photo, she is being lunged my the teacher on that.x Link still not working |
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Post by sageandonion on Apr 24, 2012 9:06:07 GMT
What does your teacher say? Is she qualified?
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Post by lulah on Apr 24, 2012 13:02:46 GMT
please dont be tempted to squeeze reins and force her head in .
a proper outline can only be established when you horse is working from its backend.
i would forget about hwere her head is for now and get her using her backend properly. transitions, figure of 8, circles, shallow loops. and give her a long rein to reward her and give her short breaks - this will really encourage her to stech down and cover more ground too.
only when your horse has more energy from behind will she find it easier to "bring her head in". also as she is not used to , be prepared for it to take sometime and remember to work in and cool off properly.
my horse is cobby (welsh D) and its taken around 6 months to get to the stage that he can work for around 20 mins on a good outline and before he does it takes me around 20 mins to warm up. lateral excersises and a good instructor have helped hugely, and his whole body has changed shape. (refering to your earlier post of how to get an "arch " in you horses neck)
i do pessoa him once a week, but i find expecting them to lunge on a 20 meter circle in a pessoa is quite hard going. espeshially when thie rnot used to using certain muscles. so build up the time gradually and be very patient.
and i agree you need a good instructor to help get you started.
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Post by katie214 on Apr 25, 2012 6:15:23 GMT
lulah, Thank you i will try it, and get the instructor, thanks everyone! xx
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Please HELP! we just need to sort that out, then we can go out and compete 
thanks x 
