GRRRR......liveries!!

[kayleigh]

So fed up today, feel like telling the lot of em to get lost.

Got one who refuses to admit there's a problem with her horse when twice this week it's put it's foot through it's stable wall, fetching it in is a life threatening experience as it comes in on two legs doing vertical rears above your head....and she just isn't willing to do anything to solve the problem. Then tonight it just randomly decides to double barrel it's stable door breaking the lock and the kickbolt and twisting the hinges, then I have to chase the bloody thing around the yard. Hey ho......its only my stables ita wrecking, my money that's paying for them to be repaired and me that has to deal with it on a daily basis, not her problem. Gggrrrrr!!

Then the others seem to need introducing to a sweeping brush and leave sh1t all over the yard and in the school.

And while im at it, you know what really Annoys me? The fact that all week we take the hay/haylage off big bales by going all the way around the bale then at the weekend when they have to fill there own nets, its all taken off the front leaving it really hard to get any off.

Anyway I've finished moaning now, Time to settle down with a glass of wine and get ready to start all over again tomorrow!

[rubydoo]

id be charging for any damage caused and possibly giving marching orders lol

[quintet]

I have a mare who has caused damage to several stables, several times! Have apologised to the yard owner every time and offerred to pay for repairs ( he has never taken me up on this) She is now in a stable where she obviously feels happier as damage has been minimal, lol! I think if your livery has failed to recognise there is a problem, let alone offer to pay for damages etc then maybe you should question if they are a livery worth keeping!!!!!

[nia2311]

i would ensure there are rules (displayed on the wall/noticeboard) and as for the one with the destructive horse- give full repair bill and final warning to leave if it continues. A firm approach is needed

[welshshowcobs]

my mare destroyed 3 walls as they were too low and she hates others in her space,i offered to pay for them,they just reused most of the bricks and she was in an end stable and has the wall built up with wood and then she was fine,now on she has no way of seeing into another stable and shes fine but i would be telling her to pay for it and her horse to leave!not worth the hassle!

[barmycharmy]

ooo i feel your pain!!

I work on a yard and have a horse that is built like a sherman tank and if you are not quick with her she just sets her neck and bogs off!! At nearly 17hh of "polish warmblood" (read plough horse) its really not plesasant.

Then another liverly threatend me with violence if i bring her horse in with 2 others just in case it gets kicked... Said horse will not walk upsides of you and no matter if you bring in with one horse or 2 it sits its head on the bum of one of them. Try telling them that they need to teach their horse to lead properly and get threatened... hmmmm

[Sasha]

Oh the joys of liveries ! Lol

[stunstead]

Its common courtesy to offer to pay for damages that your horse had made. After all, if you have your horse at home you would have to pay for the repairs yourself.

My yearling jumped out of her field a few weeks ago and took half of post and rail fence with her, breaking 2 rails. I offered to pay and help repair the fence and the yard owner refused. She was more concerned about my filly and the fact that she could have hurt herself ( which luckily she didnt ).

Unfortunately horses do sometimes cause damage and paying for the repairs etc is all part of owning them. If your not prepared to pay and take responsibility for your own horses actions , then you shouldnt have horses.

Id definately be charging her for the damage and if she refuses to pay, then give her marching orders.

[livery yard 1]

I agree with all you are saying Faldingwoodlivery and i feel for you, however - as you are using Horse Gossip under the name of your business, i feel not only is this post unprofessional but may cause your liveries, your bread and butter to leave.

Just trying to give some friendly advice here. But i do agree, liveries are a pain in the backside.

[ikklecob]

I had to pay damages when my mare broke a gate, and the school was locked when people didn't poo pick. Sounds drastic but people were far more careful about cleaning up afterwards.

[suzysmartypants]

Know exactly what you mean. In the end we had to put in our livery agreement that damage other than wear and tear had to be paid for.
and don't get me started on sweeping. Our yard was always swept and tidy, one weekend we had finished the sweeping and a livery walked across the yard with and armful of hay, leaving a trail behind her....get a brush or use a barrow....argghhhhh

[wilbs]

It's interesting to read the other side of the coin when so many people moan about the livery yard owner. As a recent recruit to a livery yard having kept horses at home for 30 years I really appreciate all the yard owner does (am in a small happy yard) and what a mess some of the other livery owners leave and the wastage of straw and haylage. But hey ho. I would be a nightmare if I owned a livery yard as I would be moaning at liveries all the time and probably have a lot of empty stables very quickly!

[leeann]

Been there not a pleasant experience

I would be setting a few ground rules, sound like there just taking the p :-Xss.

I would sort it now before it gets out of hand. As for the damage I would be looking for some contribution from the owner.

Good luck, hope the wine helped

[wave]

i am thinking myself to start up a livery... is there any insurane that covers metters like this?

[woodpecker]

Mmm been on both side of the coin here

From when I was at livery for a very short period whilst moving house & the owners horse smashing a wall, the fences and kicking my youngster & her trying to charge me for damages

To when I had 5 liveries, 4 of them were brill & all mucked in together to help & kept the place tidy & treated it as if it were their own - but the other one was a bloody nightmare & thick skinned had to result in getting a solicitors letter giving her notice

Good luck hope you can get it sorted & have a glass from me ;D

[coedyglyn2011]

we have the same problem with the bale with our liveries they wont pick any up that falls to the floor either!! they also cant seem to grasp the concept of throwing there muck up on the trailer they just simply walk onto trailer and tip they wont then pick up the muck fork which is left there for them and chuck it up , we also have problem of the can i borrow this can i borrow that as i cant find mine as they simply dont put nothing away grrrr...

[sunny]

i totally agree with you having liveries is a pain in the arse.they seem to think they can dictate to us owners how to run it,break the rules and leave everywhere a sh*t hole.im getting sick of it and feel like asking them to leave.

[sometime]

not a yard owner but was once on a yard where only one person and me knew how to make a muck heap everyone elses just dumped everything at the front of the heap so it grew exponentially and was about a foot high I got very sick and tired literally of redoing the muck heap every day for 9 liveries

[sunny]

they seem to think that they can do what the owner does,if thats the case you foot the bill for running the place and do all the work that goes into running one.got me started now.lol.you give them an inch they take a mile well no more on my yard time to get tough.things are gonna change.

[phoenix77]

I think it's down to rules. I have my boy on DIY livery, we all have a contract that says we will buy our own tools, clean up after our horses both on the yard and in the schools. Everyone gets on really well and apreciates the facilities (indoor and outdoor school, horse waler, cabin for kids to use with paystation and dvd player, toilets and shower, and a fully fitted kitchen!!) we are so lucky and we all take the time to look after it. But we also know the yard owner has time for us. It's got to be a two way street with mutual respect . If someone is taking the mick tell them to leave. I know our yo would rather have a free stable than someone who causes trouble or doesn't pull their weight.

[sunny]

i do the best i can for my liveries ,i have rules but some seem to think they can do as they please.trash fields,never brush up,dont clean the droppings out the school and then when you say something moan like mad.i dont want to be a little hitler telling people every 5 mins, just want them to respect my yard and fields and look after there ponies.

[honeypot]

I am renting out some stables as a block and it has been an education of how rude people can be. I work with the public every day but the people who have turned up have been manly rude, dismissive and made me think I would rather not have them.
Yesterday someone came, I was expecting a mother and daughter she arrived with two men who promptly decided they would wander round on there own and were surprised when I objected then had the nerve to ask me what the security was like.