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Post by Team Cupcakes on May 23, 2012 13:12:17 GMT
I have a first ridden Dartmoor who can be a little cheeky in the ring, we have shown him in a wilkie snaffle with no problems until about 6months ago, and he keeps snatching his reins, just so she will release the pressure he doesn't tank of or even change pace. I have had his back and teeth checked and he has had a full physio assessment so there is nothing wrong with him it is just a bad habit, my daughter is only little and he is taking the Mick, he is ridden in a 3 ring happy mouth gag at home and he is as sweet as can me. we just need a different bit for showing any ideas???
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Post by GinaGeo on May 23, 2012 19:44:19 GMT
Maybe try him a snaffle. What are the mouthpieces?  |
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Post by ilovenatives on May 23, 2012 19:59:47 GMT
Sometimes they do that because of the wilkie , our shetland did it at a bigger show i think it was because my daughter was nervous and hanging on her mouth a little . I would ditch the wilkie as it sounds like the pony dosnt like it . If you feel a normal snaffle wouldnt be strong enough how about a hanging cheek snaffle ours is very happy in hers and it gives better brakes and steering . It has a small port which seems to help as she has quite a fat tongue .
Can i ask why the 3 ring gag at home ?
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Post by nici on May 24, 2012 18:44:27 GMT
It sounds rather odd that you're riding him in a stronger bit at home than you're allowed in the ring. If anything, from a safety perspective I'd want it the other way around.
Our FR ponies are ridden in snaffles only ,depending on their preference - our instructor advises. We currently have one in a loose ring FL snaffle, one in a hanging cheek FL snaffle and the third in a hanging cheek single jointed snaffle, but we're going to try him back in a loose ring FL again ,as we had to use Bella's out on a hack recently (took the wrong bridles with us) and he was working very sweetly in it.
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Post by Team Cupcakes on May 24, 2012 21:13:46 GMT
Hi thanks for your messages he has only been ridden in the gag at home since the snatching started , i may not have made this clear in my post. The only reson for using the gag was i had it from a previous pony though i would try it he is happy in it. I also feel that the wilkie snaffle is a stong bit.
I just dont want to keep throwing money at bits if others have had a similar problem and may be able to advise me on it.
It is a happy mouth jointed gag. He is not strong as in she can pull him up even in a head collar, he just pulls he every now and then and it affects the picture
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Post by GinaGeo on May 24, 2012 21:18:37 GMT
It sounds like he's resisting the poll pressure to me. I'd find a nice thin french link snaffle and try that. They're not very expensive. My horse reacts similarly in a bit with poll pressure. I experimented and through trial and error found him happiest in a very thin single jointed loose ring. It wouldn't be my first port of call but he likes it.
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Post by Team Cupcakes on May 24, 2012 21:20:00 GMT
It sounds like he's resisting the poll pressure to me. I'd find a nice thin french link snaffle and try that. They're not very expensive. My horse reacts similarly in a bit with poll pressure. I experimented and through trial and error found him happiest in a very thin single jointed loose ring. It wouldn't be my first port of call but he likes it. Thank you it has to be worth ago. |
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Post by showing67 on Jun 8, 2012 14:29:52 GMT
Had the same problem with my horse but it actually used to tank off. Try a Waterford as they physically can't snatch due to the many links. Even if just used for schooling it did wonders for my horse
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Post by sophiea on Jun 8, 2012 17:10:11 GMT
ours used to snatch but was alot better when we put him in a french link, I also founs he bacame softer and lighter.
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Post by sageandonion on Jun 11, 2012 14:35:14 GMT
A simple french link which are inexpensive and you can get a second hand one off ebay for a couple £. Your pony may continue to snatch and that will not be because of the bit. You will find he needs schooling following the use of the wilkie.
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Post by norwalk on Jun 11, 2012 19:07:05 GMT
I know how difficult it is with FR ponies! We used to ride my daughters LR/FR in a stronger bit at home so she didn't get used to being able to take the p***!!!
In an ideal world I would have everything in lovely mild french link type snaffles - in reality I looked at the length (?!) of my daughters legs, her capability and strength aged 5, and gave her the tools she needed for her and her ponies to enjoy each other as safely as possible!!!! (she had the strength of a gnat! so would not be like you or I riding a pony in a srong bit - merely enough to remind a large strong animal she was there!!!).
I now have some of my bit collection for sale so see my ad, or PM me if you are looking for anything in particular...
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 19:28:21 GMT
I use NS (Nule Shuele) Spelling? on mine. Try the verbidend snaffle - to encourage the pony to have a light mouth - whilst stretching down. I dont use anything else these days, as its the only bits my sensitive mares go well in xxxx
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Post by Deleted on Jun 11, 2012 20:10:41 GMT
Wilkies are quite severe and I feel they back off from them or evade them in some manner.. try a simple french linck snaffle, mine all go nicely in them.
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Post by sarahp on Jun 25, 2012 3:29:44 GMT
What happens if you ride him in the 3 ring gag but with one rein only on the top or "snaffle" ring so without any poll pressure? Only as a try out obviously, but it would be an experiment that could yield you useful information without you having to buy more bits.
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Post by flo1 on Jun 27, 2012 21:26:44 GMT
Wilkies are quite severe . But not nearly so severe as a 3 ring gag! Are you sure the pony is snatching to be naughty and not just to relieve her mouth, children often have a habit of hanging on to the reins sometimes, especially in the ring when they are a little nervous and excited. |
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