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Post by Marymoo on May 30, 2012 17:10:38 GMT
I have a public footpath running alongside the back of my field. My chickens are free range but keep in my field. Most of the dog walkers are responsible and keep their dog on a lead till they get past. Apart from one who lets his off, throws the ball into my field resulting in the loss of 2 of my chickens. Both times he has come to tell me that his dog has killed them. He offers to replace them but wont keep his dog on a lead. I'm at a loss what to do?  |
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Post by lisadundee on May 30, 2012 17:26:55 GMT
Shoot the dog! See how he likes it! It's on your land, he continues to be irresponsible and let it off! Oh and then offer to replace it!!! Tin hat on now!
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Post by brindlerainbow on May 30, 2012 17:31:17 GMT
That is livestock worrying in my book as the dog is going onto private proerty and killing your chickens. Definately have a word with the police. I think you are allowed to shoot a dog that is worrying livestock.........
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Post by lisadundee on May 30, 2012 17:35:31 GMT
Yes you are! I know if any animal came on my land and killed any of my animals I would forgive a first time and put it down to an accident but a second time!!! No I would shoot it without hesitation!
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Post by viking on May 30, 2012 17:47:59 GMT
Just as well you don't have sheep as no doubt it would chase and probably kill those too.
I would warn first, and then if necessary follow the advice of lisadundee.
What are the police saying? Have they spoken to him?
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Post by oakley2012 on May 30, 2012 18:06:14 GMT
Hi I would put a sign up at the boundary either side and very visible saying DOGS SEEN INTERFERING WITH LIVESTOCK ON THIS LAND MAY BE SHOT if he thinks anything of his dog he will keep it on a lead. We had a similar problem and the NFU told us to do this as it is a warning and is not unreasonable action if it is your land and stock either chickens or sheep etc. Hope he goes away somewhere else to walk his dog!! x
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Post by jasper1 on May 31, 2012 10:46:26 GMT
oakley2012, is spot on. We have had numerous chooks killed, but a sign has helped . Some people are just on a different planet when it comes to other peoples animals and think it is highly amusing when their dog is chasing horses etc, but they soon have a change of heart when their dog gets a B good kick by a horse or its owner!
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Post by watchbank on May 31, 2012 10:54:06 GMT
My OH is a farmer and we are allowed to shoot any dog that strays onto our land by LAW... Most dog owners think its funny when they come onto our land when they have the odd sheep/hen/horse to chase because they dont understand what can happen to there dog
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Post by browbands.co.uk on May 31, 2012 11:24:43 GMT
OK i wouldn't shoot the dog its not its fault its owner is a dush bag! I would report it to the police have them go over and put the frighteners up him. |
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Post by lovebird on May 31, 2012 11:36:38 GMT
I agree it's not the dog fault it's the owner for allowing it to behave in this way, however it's the only way these sort of people understand, they have no respect for anything or anybody.
I have a sign. All dogs found worrying livestock will be destroyed
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Post by Marymoo on May 31, 2012 14:01:53 GMT
Thanks for your helpful comments. I will have a word with the owner telling him if it happens again i will contact the police. I will also put a sign up too.
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Post by brt on May 31, 2012 14:02:08 GMT
I am right in thinking dogs should be kept on a lead on a public footpath?
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Post by vikki85 on May 31, 2012 14:47:05 GMT
I can't believe he has allowed this to happen a second time, knowing full well his dog is capable of killing the chickens! My dog killed a pheasant a couple of weeks ago and now I won't let her off the lead at all at this time of year in the woods behind our house as she's a menace to the local wildlife.
Sounds like you've been given good advice by the others, hopefully speaking to him will help and putting a sign up. I don't think I could actually shoot the dog personally, especially as it's the moronic owner's fault, but I can totally see it from other people's point of view that own livestock.
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Post by watchbank on May 31, 2012 15:37:59 GMT
Its like me letting our 2 Irish Wolfhounds off in a deer park or something and expecting them not to chase or try and kill...silly man
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Post by Deleted on May 31, 2012 16:25:57 GMT
This happened to me - I rang the dog warden and he contacted the dog owner and said I was within my rights to have the dog put to sleep by a vet and he would have to pay the bill and replace the chickens. chickens aren't cheap to buy £10.00 for a point of lay. So I would write him a bill out, confiscate his dog and ring the dog warden, I locked the offending dog in my trailer until the dog warden came - I told him its in the trailer, caught it red handed, I want it destroying!
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Post by horseylady on May 31, 2012 20:24:04 GMT
Shoot the dog! See how he likes it! It's on your land, he continues to be irresponsible and let it off! Oh and then offer to replace it!!! Tin hat on now! OOOh im liking that... just popping my tin hat on now  |
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Post by brt on May 31, 2012 21:07:51 GMT
Shame for the dog though, it's only doing what comes natural. I would much prefer to shoot the owner
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Post by lisadundee on May 31, 2012 21:14:52 GMT
Shame for the dog though, it's only doing what comes natural. I would much prefer to shoot the owner shoot them both! Lol just kidding |
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Post by vikki85 on May 31, 2012 21:30:35 GMT
Shame for the dog though, it's only doing what comes natural. I would much prefer to shoot the owner I agree brt! Lol |
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Post by brt on Jun 1, 2012 7:18:06 GMT
My JRT killed all of mine in one fail swoop, he dug out the garden and did them all in less than 7 minutes!
If i had had a gun to hand i would have shot the bugger i was so angry. Not replaced to chickens as i felt so guilty that it happened. He was just doing what came natural to him and he was forgiven quite quickly but i loved my chickens and i was gutted he didn't kill them completely and i had to finish them off, It's sickening.......
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Post by sarahp on Jun 1, 2012 8:37:24 GMT
I think dogs can be loose on a public footpath, but if in a field with livestock (or I suppose on a path alongside them with access to them) must be "under close control", ie on a lead or well trained and obedient enough to walk to heel without one and not chase anything. So many people seem to think that a field with a footpath through it is a great place for their dog to run free and do what it wants, makes me mad.
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Jun 1, 2012 9:09:34 GMT
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Post by Marymoo on Jun 1, 2012 15:27:26 GMT
Thanks for all the comments. I love my chickens and all have names. Bit sad i know but they are all characters and part of the family. Some are ex battery and others pedigrees. They all have a right to roam free safely. I dread seeing him coming with his dog. But the next time i see him i'm going to tell him that if he doesnt keep it on a lead i'll report him to the dog warden and police.
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Post by shellywell on Aug 22, 2012 12:26:01 GMT
Hello,
I am looking for an update, has the dog reoffended?
Did you shoot the owner?
Really hoping that you haven't lost more chickens, I too love mine and loose it completely when dogs chase them.
Hope your menace has sorted itself out.
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Post by Marymoo on Aug 24, 2012 7:08:03 GMT
Hello Shellywell  I spoke to the owner and told him that he must keep it on a lead as its an offence to let a dog chase or kill livestock. He told me that he couldn't understand the fuss as he had offered to pay for the dead chickens. I think he was expecting to pay a couple of pounds like he would in the supermarket for an oven ready one and was quite surprised when i asked for £30. Sadly it hasn't stopped him. He still wont put it on a lead. The grass has grown up the fencing at the moment so it shields my chickens  |
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Post by brindlerainbow on Aug 24, 2012 7:20:07 GMT
What an absolute d1ckhead!! People do get attached to their chickens ( I do!!! ) so him saying he couldn't understand the fuss just shows the kind of half wit you are dealing with. Definately speak to the police because allowing a dog to worry livestock is an offence. If he does it again then shoot the bugger ( dog or owner whichever one you manage to hit first ) |
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Post by gillwales on Aug 24, 2012 7:47:20 GMT
agree with other posts .. shot the owner! however a neighbour of mine had a really dangerous German Shepard who killed another neighbours sheep, the farmer went round to see them and they paid to replace the sheep, it got out again and the farmer went to the police and was told that as the dog owner paid for the sheep and he accepted the money he could not get the dog destroyed... If I was you I would take a photo of this man letting his dog loose has evidence, I suspect that you will loose more birds.
good luck
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Post by Sam on Aug 25, 2012 9:32:09 GMT
How about putting electric fencing up, everyone is going on about shooting the dog but is there anything you can do. Putting a sign up is a good idea.
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Post by Marymoo on Aug 26, 2012 10:36:16 GMT
I have electric fencing up and the NFU signs that say to keep your dog on a lead through livestock.
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Post by gillwales on Aug 26, 2012 11:34:34 GMT
well done Marymoo, you have been pro-active! I hope this ends your birds being harassed, if it does not then I do not think you are left with any other choice other than to dispatch the dog, it is up to the owner to ensure it does not stray onto your land.
Good luck x
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