NPS Novice WHP rules

[oliver2]

Could someone clarify the NPS Novice WHP rule for the qualifying rounds. I thought that once you had qualified HOYs or RIHS you could no longer do NPS Novice WHP - or is this just at the finals at the NPS Champs?

[GaynorStones]

Not to have qualified Hoys or RI before 1st January in the current year

[oliver2]

Thanks.
I knew you would know the NPS rules - I could not put my hand on the rule book and Suffolk catalogue had said not to have qualified in previous or current year. I am easily confused!

[janetbushell]

According to page 41 of 2012 rulebook:

M&M NOV WHP

rule a) iv) Qualified for an M&M WHP final at HOYS or RIHS in previous years or in the current year

[oliver2]

So the ponies at Suffolk that had qualified for RIHS should not really have done Novice then under NPS rules?

[moonpenny]

Not if they'd qualified in previous years. If they had qualified this year only then they are still allowed to do the novice.

[forester]

yes if they qualified HOYS/RI this year they can still contest novices

[oliver2]

Thanks for clarifying that for me

[charliefox]

after getting clarifiaction from the NPS office direct about a month ago, I was informed that if you have qualified for the RIHS or Hoys this year - you can not compete in the novice classes this year either. Rules do state " or in the current year " so no you can not compete in novice whp classes if you have qualifed for the RIHS or Hoys. Hope that makes sense

[lillibet]

Charliefox that is also how I understood the rules to be - and it does say in the current rule book:
rule a) iv) Qualified for an M&M WHP final at HOYS or RIHS in previous years or in the current year
So I guess the ponies Oliver2 is talking about at Suffolk should not have done the Novice class but too late now to do anything about it !

[charliefox]

Yes Lilibet, the ponies Oliver2 is talking about at the Suffolk should not have done the novice but as you say too late to do anything about it now!!!

[forester]

but if you have already qualified for the noivce finals then qualify for HOYS/RI can you still compete in your finals???

i have had to email nps regarding starter stakes as at a show this weekend the course builder put in 2 water trays!!!! there not allowed in the novice so why on earth would they be allowed in the baby novice

[tangerine]

Oh my goodness. . . 2 water trays in a complete novice workers. . . Eeeeek

[titch]

I had thought that you can qualify in the novice first then the rihs or hoys and stil take part in the novice final but not the other way around.

[charliefox]

forester - as far as I am aware - no you can not compete at novice final if you qualify for HOYS/RI before the novice final - sounds very harsh two water trays in a starter stakes class - surprised the judge was happy - as it is down to the judge who has the final decision that they are happy with the course for the class they are judging

[maudie]

Jun 11, 2012 13:33:07 GMT forester said:

but if you have already qualified for the noivce finals then qualify for HOYS/RI can you still compete in your finals???

i have had to email nps regarding starter stakes as at a show this weekend the course builder put in 2 water trays!!!! there not allowed in the novice so why on earth would they be allowed in the baby novice

Think you were at the same show as us, my ponys first ever workers so were a bit surprised and were told by a course builder they shouldnt be there, we gave that class a miss and did the next

[forester]

yes was the same show,it is being taken up with the NPS show commitee my connie almost had a heart attack at the last fence and jumped about 4ft in the air!!!