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Post by shelliewilson on Jun 30, 2012 20:38:56 GMT
just a quick moan because it drives me mad when people advertise their horse/pony on here for sale with very little relevant detail ie breeding and pictures etc and then accuse you of time wasting if you ask for the info or pic and decide the pony was not for you, so you dont get back to these people, so not to waste there time?  seriously how can you win??? |
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Post by sometime on Jun 30, 2012 20:54:46 GMT
Could be that there are a lot of tyre kickers and photo collectors on here and they get a bit fed up of not getting genuine buyers. No excuse as they are putting off the good buyers too.
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Post by sarahp on Jun 30, 2012 21:50:15 GMT
Well a quick message back saying thanks but no thanks is only polite rather than just disappearing without a word.
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Post by shelliewilson on Jun 30, 2012 22:45:08 GMT
unfortunately when your selling anything not just horses your going to get inquiries (how else do you know if its what your looking for) personally i think a message saying no is insulting which is why i never get back to people, but getting back to the point if they wrote allthe info in the 1st place and added pics people wouldneed to get in contact at all if they were not interested? just my opinion tho?
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Post by sometime on Jun 30, 2012 22:54:24 GMT
Not quite sure I understand why would saying no thank you be insulting I personally think it is very rude to ask a load of questions then just disappear with no further contact.
I also agree that without all the information you cannot make a decision so adverts should contain size, breeding, colour, price, age and experience and at least one photo, but you would be surprised at how many people ask for photos and details already in the advert with no intention of getting in touch or buying anything. Perhaps just a simple advert and a contact number would be all that was needed as to be honest the internet has stopped many a good horse selling due to folks expecting too much. If you want to buy a pony you have to phone and ask the relevant questions then go and see and try it
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Post by peds on Jul 1, 2012 0:13:38 GMT
I don't understand why people get do upset about not hearing back from people!
If I don't hear back I just assume they are not interested!!
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Post by sarahp on Jul 1, 2012 3:53:04 GMT
Agreed, more information in the original ad should enable possible buyers to sift them out and answer fewer ads rather than have to ask for more info', but I'm with sometime, it's rude just to disappear with no word, leaving the seller hanging. With a polite no thank you, not what I was looking for, they know where you are, so to speak. Why should it be an insult if it isn't what they want? We all look for different things.
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Post by sometime on Jul 1, 2012 9:11:55 GMT
Perhaps it is a generational thing I just think it is good manners to politely say no thank you. Yes you do have to assume they are not interested but to my mind and probably most older people's mind "manners maketh man and beast"
I am also of the mind that I would rather answer the phone to the interested party than send pictures and answer questions that may be misinterpreted on an email or PM. At least then the buyer is committing some money to their quest and less likely to phone for a jolly
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Post by sarahp on Jul 1, 2012 10:57:08 GMT
I'm with you sometime, maybe it is a generational thing but what does that say about the youth of today?
I'm also very happy to talk on the phone, both sides can get a much better idea of whether it's likely to be a "fit" that way. I'd much rather spend a bit of time on the phone than a lot getting in a pony, getting it ready etc for a buyer that either doesn't show up or is obviously not suited, and never mind getting a polite "no". I always reckon buying a pony is more like choosing a partner than a car - a decision of the heart too and not just the head.
I do seem to be lucky somehow though, and attract some lovely possible buyers, some of which buy and some don't - in fact one who came with a friend to see something for the friend a couple of years ago ended up loaning one from my daughter later on! And not many who mess me about.
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Post by shelliewilson on Jul 1, 2012 16:01:58 GMT
thank you peds i would rather open my message box to find 2 more inquiries than 20 answers saying no thanks, imo i dont thinkits rude because i never said i would buy it to say no thanks, i am just inquiring because of lack of information, if i was to go and try the pony then disappear then yes they would have every right to label somebody a time wasted but a quick message to tell me a ponies breeding isnt time wasting surely? |
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Post by sarahp on Jul 1, 2012 16:41:08 GMT
Why should it be a question of either/or?
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Post by sometime on Jul 1, 2012 17:58:18 GMT
And I would rather open 20 messages that say no thank you than send information to 20 people and hear nothing more that is a waste of my time. Personally It is the quality of the ad that we agree on and the method of answering we dont.
I do think that actually talking to people about their animal is better than endless emails and pms backwards and forwards Within a few minutes you can answer everything anyone wants to know and I certainly dont mind saying no thank you or please may I visit to meet the pony
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Post by mandmfan on Jul 1, 2012 21:21:46 GMT
I agree - if you are seriously interested nothing like a good chat over the phone rather than countless emails. And what is the harm in a simple 'thanks but no thanks' message - takes all of 5 seconds? At least then the seller knows they can discount you.
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Post by amumwithapony on Jul 2, 2012 7:00:33 GMT
Having used both this and other means of advertising a pony for sale I found forums attracted more time wasters than anything else  Think its the nature of the beast. Very easy to think 'ohh thats nice, let me have some more piccys etc etc' when the 'buyer' actually has no intention of buying. Whereas if you pay to advertise (like Horsequest) there isn't the option to send personal messages. YOu may get an email address but its usually a case of calling them. We've had a couple of nice viewers and buyers from here and it is free to use so I think that it balances itself out in the end. Depends how much vaule you put on your time I suppose |
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Post by sarahp on Jul 2, 2012 8:08:55 GMT
Mine mostly go gradually through my website although any more urgent go on here and HQ. I don't seem to get any tyre kickers/photo collectors from here though, maybe my grumpy old woman persona deters them! I can't do photos anyway, so I just direct anyone to my website, they're all up on there. Daughter has just set up a FB page for the ponies, it will be interesting to see if that generates interest although really just for communication - we have already had some of the ponies I've sold in the past popping up and getting in touch, which is great.
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Post by desktop on Jul 3, 2012 11:33:10 GMT
I dont actually see the point of putting an advert up with no picture, surely you are going to get bombarded with requests to send them. I now dont even respond to an advert without a picture, location, height etc as a bare minimum, I am likely to be accused of being a time waster. If advertisers specified all the information to start with there would be no need for 'timewasters' as the information would be there. I also think a lot of sellers to it on purpose to ensure that their adverts are bumped everytime someone asks for information  I know of another forum that lock that adverts as soon as they are placed, so the only way to enquire is through PM or telephone  |
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Post by shelliewilson on Jul 3, 2012 15:03:16 GMT
I dont actually see the point of putting an advert up with no picture, surely you are going to get bombarded with requests to send them. I now dont even respond to an advert without a picture, location, height etc as a bare minimum, I am likely to be accused of being a time waster. If advertisers specified all the information to start with there would be no need for 'timewasters' as the information would be there. I also think a lot of sellers to it on purpose to ensure that their adverts are bumped everytime someone asks for information I know of another forum that lock that adverts as soon as they are placed, so the only way to enquire is through PM or telephone at last someone who see's where i am coming from!  |
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Post by sometime on Jul 3, 2012 15:17:30 GMT
I dont think anyone that disagreed with you about the need for all adverts to carry all the essential information, height, colour, sex, location, price, age, photo etc
What we disagreed with was that is was rude to say no its is not what I am looking for and thus just disappearing off the face of the earth
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seriously how can you win???
I know of another forum that lock that adverts as soon as they are placed, so the only way to enquire is through PM or telephone 
