strong in a double help

[pennypoo]

my hw hunter becomes strong VERY strong at bigger shows
to the point ive no brakes!!

hes in a magic bit those straight bar snaffles with the little ports on the middle ! he works super in this at home very light and easy, great at local shows in his double or indoor shows but get him on grass in a big ring and........ away he goes!!!!

i thought of a wilkie but he hates jointed bits bit bit!

any ideas on more brakes for his double???

any ideas guys xx

[Tywood]

I think fylde do a magic bit mouth, with their wilkie rings, you could try that as your bradoon!!

[pennypoo]

uhhhh do they cool ill have a look do you think the wilkie give much more in the term of brakes?? x

[dappledgreypony]

We used it on a pony very similar sounding to yours - great at home but was strong in the ring etc. It helped her brilliantly, & was just what I needed to regain control at shows! Hope this helps,
DGP

[Tywood]

The wilkie ring range of bits just give that extra bit of poll pressure to go with the curb action of the weymouth, I have a french link wilkie as my bridoon, i ride on that most of the time and use the weymouths curb as back up when/if needed.

[sarahp]

I have been trying to avoid muttering, but if you have a curb bit on a double to use, why would you want to add a wilkie with more poll pressure? The curb bit would surely give more than the wilkie anyway due to the length of the shank. To ride in a double you should be able to use the two reins independently so can use the curb bit only when necessary.

[Tywood]

All I know, is that it works for this particular pony, when nothing else tried did. There are lots of people using wilkie style ringed bits as bradoons, including professionals!

[vcl]

Have you tried tightening your curb chain or trying a weymouth with longer shanks? Since you ony really use your weymouth when you need to you can ride off the snaffle if hes listening and give him a wee reminder on teh curb shen he starts to take a hold

[sarahp]

Exactly, that's how a double is designed to be used.

[GinaGeo]

Jul 18, 2012 8:38:17 GMT sarahp said:

I have been trying to avoid muttering, but if you have a curb bit on a double to use, why would you want to add a wilkie with more poll pressure? The curb bit would surely give more than the wilkie anyway due to the length of the shank. To ride in a double you should be able to use the two reins independently so can use the curb bit only when necessary.

I've been trying to work out how to write this diplomatically since the OP was posted. You've beaten me to it.

Just because a professional does something it doesn't make it right. Some showing "profesionals" use steroids, some professional SJ's use weighted boots, some professional dressage riders use Rolkur - it doesn't make it right...

[redshadow]

I agree Professionals are in it to earn a living, their priority is financial not the welfare of the horse as it is with the likes of ourselves.

[lulah]

i second trying a longer shanked weymouth first.