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Post by Keiley on Jul 30, 2012 21:09:09 GMT
Hi all, hope someone can help, I recently took on a section A on full loan, for my two kids, just on lead rein plodding around and taking lessons on her, fantastic little lady she is, walks right by my side I stop she stops, I trot so does she, the only issue is, she only has a quick trot...no canter! So as we're on the same yard as her owner a young teenager I asked her if she could get it out of her whilst she rode, an she said she could and was just a lazy pony, but then got on to demonstrate and nope again she wouldn't go into canter, does anyone have any idea why this could be? we've only had her 2mnths she came with all her tack but last week had to buy a new girth as the old one wouldn't go near, overweight maybe? Could that be the answer? Thanks in advance  |
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Post by robrocksforsure on Jul 30, 2012 21:27:52 GMT
Seems this little angel has been used as a lead rein pony and hasn't been taught to canter under saddle. I would go back to lunging and teach her like you would a youngster.
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Post by judyh on Jul 30, 2012 21:32:58 GMT
We had a lovely lead rein pony when my two were little. As they got older we did eventually get her to canter,not easy as she had years of just walking and trotting. Also if you took off the lead rein she would follow you as if still on it. You need a lightweight rider to school her , i would also lunge her in two reins and try to get walk to canter,depends on how experienced you are.
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Post by bethanyy on Jul 30, 2012 21:58:57 GMT
Seems this little angel has been used as a lead rein pony and hasn't been taught to canter under saddle. I would go back to lunging and teach her like you would a youngster. Fully agree once she has been taught to canter on the lunge I would apply to ridden work, probably with a bigger jockey than your little ones who can be firm and make the aids clear in order to get the transition. Will probably be easier also to use a clear distinct voice command when asking and teaching the canter on the lunge, then the pony will be able to understand what is expected under saddle when the voice command is used with the aids x |
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Post by Keiley on Jul 30, 2012 22:17:38 GMT
Thank you very much for everyone's advice, I was thinking it might have been the weight! I will have her on that lunge rein tomorrow Hey in a few weeks she mite even fit back into that old girth haha, thanks again guys. X |
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Post by irishshowpony on Aug 25, 2012 20:33:50 GMT
We had same problem with our section A - she had never been taught the Aids to canter which resulted in her just trotting faster & faster until little jockey was bounced off! Lots of lunge work will help - our pony will canter fine now she knows the aids. Also don't forget the kids need to learn how to give correct canter aids, suggest you get an older/experienced small rider to help!
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Post by orangetails on Aug 26, 2012 16:48:24 GMT
Agree with the others - also I find a big trot seems to come naturally to a lot of A's. Mine was hilarious as a youngster, really took her a long time to work out how her legs moved :lol: She'd be running around in the field with my arab, and the arab would pop gracefully and effortlessly into a floaty canter - my little A would just keep trotting faster and faster until she eventually fell into canter :lol:
I taught her to go off a voice command when I got her back off loan earlier this year - she was cantering fine on hacks, but hadn't really done any work in a school and was struggling with a smaller rider to understand what to do - if they kicked really hard or hit her with a stick she would throw a leg out in defence because she didn't understand what was being asked of her. Altho I am too tall for her to help her understand with the aids in the right place, she very quickly learnt a voice command - it only took about 4 sessions to have a consistent result - and she's been fine now with smaller riders too (back out on loan again now, where she will stay long term and her schooling is now coming on nicely) I found it easier to do from the saddle than lunging, because I was better able to help contain the front end and show her she needed to change gait, not just run on in a faster/bigger trot.
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Post by sageandonion on Aug 26, 2012 19:35:36 GMT
Make sure she isn't in foal.
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Post by hs on Aug 26, 2012 21:22:06 GMT
If she has been used as a lead rein pony she may well have been taught not to canter when on the LR regardless of what she asked to as cantering in a LR class is a big no no. Therefore you may have to retrain her, which might take time especially if she is an older pony with years of experience behind her.
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Post by Keiley on Aug 28, 2012 0:14:28 GMT
Weve gone back to basics started the groundwork again and had two small canters! Yeayy we do also have a lightweight rider on the farm so whilst on a hack the more experienced rider got on and started to follow our group into canter! But again only very small she will take 4/5 strides then near enough halt to a walk. She's just been in season in July iv cut out her evening feed to help with the weight she's still not lost any more even though she's gone from having very little exercise to now lunge or riding 3/4 times a wk, now whilst riding she's also pulling her head rite down to the ground and unfortunately my daughter is going rite over most times which in turn is now knocking her confidence! |
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Post by flo1 on Aug 28, 2012 13:56:27 GMT
If your young ones are ready for canter can they not do so off the leadrein? If I had a lead rein pony I wouldn't be happy for someone to teach it to canter on the lead. That would be a big nono in the ring  |
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Post by Keiley on Aug 28, 2012 22:20:15 GMT
Lol oh gosh I no not on the lead rope, my eldest now needs to move onto the 3rd pace, he is not lead at all in the paddock,and we don't go to any shows we do this only as a hobbie for them to build confidance on a well behaved pony for the time being.
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Post by nici on Aug 28, 2012 22:30:45 GMT
Grass reins or daisy reins needed to stop your pony putting her head down. It's a bad habit some little ponies get and once they know they can get away with it with a little rider on board, the habit sets in (speaking form experience). Get grass reins or daisy reins on asap and use them whenever your little one is on board off the lead, so your pony learns she cannot get her head down. I can't stress enough that you need to break this habit quickly before your little one loses confidence!
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Post by Keiley on Aug 29, 2012 21:02:28 GMT
Yes thank you I'll get shopping for them now! Thankyou x
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Post by sarahp on Aug 30, 2012 8:37:52 GMT
Can be improvised with baler twine for normal use!
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Post by elmere on Aug 30, 2012 10:12:36 GMT
Can be improvised with baler twine for normal use! Thats what we use if theres something that puts its head down, baler twine tied to the D rings on the saddle and passed through a small ring underneath the bit also attached by baler twine. That way with the ring they can still put their head from side to side and aren't as restricted. |
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Post by sarahp on Aug 30, 2012 11:01:08 GMT
Or up along the neck, through the ends of the browband and down to the bit.
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Post by picklesanddinx on Sept 17, 2012 21:39:28 GMT
Hi I also have a sec a my little boys pony he is now cantering and jumping in his lesson on instructors pony however we can't seem to get his pony to canter I managed to get her to do a little canter on the lunge with my older daughter riding her but this evening I couldn't get her for love or money to pop into canter she just gets faster and faster in trot any ideas to help get her to canter
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