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Post by aura on Aug 5, 2012 15:45:06 GMT
This is monty my 18 week cockapoo puppy. At first i was unsure with this breed but i am so pleased with him come january we will have another (who we plan to call burns).
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Post by aura on Aug 5, 2012 15:52:00 GMT
and another
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Post by sarahp on Aug 5, 2012 16:28:20 GMT
He looks lovely but is not a breed! A cross bred, or mongrel if you prefer the term.
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Post by aura on Aug 5, 2012 17:51:58 GMT
Do you feel your comment is necessary? I am mealy showing a picture of my dog, who yes- is not a pure bred (that is quiet obvious from the name cockapoo) and do not appreciate your petty 'corrections'.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2012 18:11:20 GMT
He is adorable! So cute!!
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Post by Hollydale fells on Aug 5, 2012 18:15:16 GMT
i also have a cockapo and hes the best dog ive ever had so loyal and lovin even though hes a mongrel i love and wouldnt be without him ;)aura i hope you get as much pleasure with ur puppy as ive got with mine
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Post by gillwales on Aug 5, 2012 18:23:52 GMT
he is very cute, once again my beloved has a pet named after him, lost my darling Jet a black cocker spaniel 6 months ago who I miss very much, can't wait to sell up so I can give up work so I can get anther pup
it doesnt matter what bred a dog is it is how much they love and are loved that matters
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Post by sarahp on Aug 5, 2012 19:01:36 GMT
I'm just someone who likes accuracy. We have a cross bred dog, and a rescue who could well be pure bred but we don't claim him as such as we don't know for sure, so not anti them in any way.
He looks lovely which I said.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Aug 5, 2012 19:42:38 GMT
What a lovely little dog  Hope you have a lot of fun with him |
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 5, 2012 19:57:03 GMT
What a gorgeous puppy, I have a labradoodle and she is a fabulous little dog with a huge character. If yours is like her she will keep you amused for hours and be a loyal little treasure.xx out of interest: A breed is a group of domestic animals or plants with a homogeneous appearance, behavior, and other characteristics that distinguish it from other animals or plants of the same species, and arrived at through selective breeding. Despite the centrality of the idea of "breeds" to animal husbandry, there is no scientifically accepted definition of the term.[1] A breed is therefore not an objective or biologically verifiable classification, but instead a term of art amongst groups of breeders who share a consensus around what qualities make some members of a given species members of a nameable subset. So open to interpretation  |
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 5, 2012 20:14:44 GMT
Lovely dog, you will never regret choosing a c0ckerpoo!!
You might get a bit of stick off a few people on this site, don't let it bother you its just a different opinion, doesn't mean to say anyone is 100% right or wrong, you just make the right choice for YOU and let others do the same!
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Post by aura on Aug 5, 2012 20:34:29 GMT
I too lost my life about two months ago- had him for the past 17 years and could never replace him in a million yets. Getting another was not taken lightly but having never not had a dog I couldn't imagin not.
Thankyou for your lovely words he really is a star. ( though very cheeky I must say)
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Post by sarahp on Aug 6, 2012 9:49:56 GMT
When discussing domestic animals, the term breed is normally used for KJM's definition but with the additional facts that they breed true, ie when mated together, two individuals of any one breed will give offspring like themselves, which is not true of crossbreds, and normally governed by a register, studbook or whatever you like to call it. How else would you describe our native pony breeds for example, we all know what is meant by that? Same with dogs, cows, sheep, poultry etc.
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Post by viking on Aug 6, 2012 11:59:50 GMT
One HOPES they will give offspring like themselves.....
Super dog aura. Looks like a lot of fun. Wishing you many happy years together.
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Post by sarahp on Aug 6, 2012 12:24:27 GMT
Well if you mate two of the same breed, you will get one recognisable as the same breed again, whereas crossbreds can give almost anything. For example - labradoodles have the reputation of having non-allergenic coats, but in fact the type is not yet fixed and the possible coats seem to be many and various, and not always non-allergenic.
I agree, he looks a lovely dog - but then I love cockers anyway, we used to have one, and have a friend with standard poodles, also super dogs.
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Post by aura on Aug 6, 2012 14:17:15 GMT
I understand the terminology around the word breed- I just don't think I matters in a post such as this. But again thankyou |
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Post by sarahp on Aug 6, 2012 16:52:27 GMT
I think accuracy and correct usage of terminology always matters.
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 6, 2012 17:27:22 GMT
Out of interest, how come you can have an Anglo Arab horse and no one bats an eyelid, and all the shows have classes for part breds as do the stud books, and yet you can't have a part bred dog without someone calling it a mongrel?
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Post by brindlerainbow on Aug 6, 2012 17:33:10 GMT
MM you would love me I judged a dog show last week and my BIS was a german wire haired pointer and RBIS was a crossbreed - pointer x dalmation!! No cockerpoos there im afraid |
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Post by gillwales on Aug 6, 2012 17:43:49 GMT
people usually consider their pets has part of their family. Unkind comments are out of order, I thought this site was meant to be friendly. Come on everyone, this is a lady who wants to let us all know how happy she is with her new pet. Whether you consider it a cross-bred or mongrel or you feel that certain mixtures are now a type doesn't matter, what counts is a loving pet that is much loved.
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Post by sarahp on Aug 6, 2012 18:47:47 GMT
MM - Anglo Arabs and part breds are by definition crossbreds, not pure breeds. I don't think dog breed stud books have sections for part breds though.
Mongrel - (1) a dog of no definable type or breed (2) any other animal or plant resulting from the crossing of different types or breeds - of mixed origin, nature or character.
I have repeatedly said how lovely the dog looks - how is that unkind? As I have also said, I like accuracy. I think I am the sufferer here now.
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Post by holly1 on Aug 6, 2012 19:59:10 GMT
Im very proud to say I breed cockapoos, they may be cross breeds but they are becoming one of the most popular breeds to have as family pets because of their loving loyal natures. Hes a lovely looking puppy but be warned you just cant stop at one!
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Post by gillwales on Aug 6, 2012 20:06:46 GMT
Out of interest, how come you can have an Anglo Arab horse and no one bats an eyelid, and all the shows have classes for part breds as do the stud books, and yet you can't have a part bred dog without someone calling it a mongrel? I think this is because of the number of extreme and unhealthy traits that some dog breeders and those that show dogs have introduced to their breeds, hence why cross-breeds are becoming more popular |
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Post by kayjayem on Aug 6, 2012 20:46:35 GMT
people usually consider their pets has part of their family. Unkind comments are out of order, I thought this site was meant to be friendly. Come on everyone, this is a lady who wants to let us all know how happy she is with her new pet. Whether you consider it a cross-bred or mongrel or you feel that certain mixtures are now a type doesn't matter, what counts is a loving pet that is much loved.  this thread is about a lucky lady who is rightly proud of her lovely pup. Nitpicking on terminology should be left for another thread. |
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Post by aura on Aug 6, 2012 21:00:56 GMT
i agree holly1 i can not- another will be joining us early next year and i have already named him burns (monty burns from the simpsons- you dont have to comment me on my cleverness of this i already know- lol ) As to the my usage of the work breed- if this was a post regarding breeding, or i was a professional breeder/producer of dogs, or i was speaking about a serious matter regarding the animals then i would of used the word a lightly- but quiet simply this is a picture of my puppy, and be him cross-bred or not who cares? &kayjayem i am indeed a lucky lady- i have now started making an album named 'things monty has stolen' they are ranging from hairbrushes to bras. haha |
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Post by primrose3 on Aug 6, 2012 21:14:47 GMT
Monty and burns! Genius ;D
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Post by brindlerainbow on Aug 6, 2012 22:07:11 GMT
I agree this is a thread about someones new puppy not about the correct terminology . while I too like things to be correct I don't like it when people are constantly being corrected for this, that and the other . Lets just keep it friendly and light hearted |
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Post by Milliesmum on Aug 6, 2012 22:29:58 GMT
My last comment, then I promise to button my lip and go away!!
There is a difference, I feel, between a 'mongrel', which I would understand to be a dog of indeterminate breeding, maybe going back generations, where you could have no real insight into how big it may grow or what the temperament may be like, and a 'crossbreed', which I would understand to be a first cross between two specific breeds, where you could reliably predict, size, temperament and any possible health problems.
Personally I think there's a vast difference between the two.
To the original poster, I'm sure your enjoying your lovely dog, hope he brings you much joy, as has mine and continues to do so. xx
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Post by sarahp on Aug 7, 2012 8:19:26 GMT
MM - I have given the OED definition of a mongrel above. First crosses are not predictable - I quote you two equine full siblings I bred AES x D - one 14.2hh and one 16hh.
All of you jumping on me has taken over poor aura's thread, don't blame me for that. I have been nothing but honest and polite. Isn't it time to stop now?
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Post by cazcox on Aug 8, 2012 11:38:13 GMT
sarahp you did reply in not the most kindest of ways. Quite dogmatic as I read it, so not surprising people jumped down your throat.
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Hope you have a lot of fun with him 
