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Post by jacksprat on Aug 20, 2012 12:44:06 GMT
if this horse was mine, i would be having him checked ie, vet, back, teeth, i would them be tempted to give him a couple of months off, turn him away in the field and let him chill. i would then start everything from scratch, re back him completely as if he has never been touched.
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Post by GinaGeo on Aug 20, 2012 12:56:43 GMT
As above. I'd turn away, check nothing was wrong and start from scratch with him after a good few months. Restarting him from scratch with lots of long lining to help him to develop the muscle he needs.
My own Irish horse, is not all that interested in schooling and doesn't learn particularly quickly. He does however hunt and hack - we restarted him from scratch as a four year old and were told then that he wouldn't mature until he was nine. It was a very correct statement, he's now in his ninth year and has finally grown up a bit.
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Post by lulah on Aug 20, 2012 13:04:35 GMT
i agree with jacksprat. make sure he is completley comfortable , give him some time off and etstablish a relationship together. Then lots of in hand work, walking him out in traffic etc, long reining. lunging in a pessoa is very benefical for changing a horses shape without the weight of a rider.
he may well of been driven, you could blinker his bridle and see if hes better to ride? i dont mean it as a quick fix souloution, just a test to see if he was driven .
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Post by GinaGeo on Aug 20, 2012 13:19:21 GMT
It sounds like you've been subjected to too many differing opinions and are trying to do the right thing by all of them. Get yourself an instructor you trust and listen to them, not all the yard experts Lunging in a pessoa, although not my preffered method won't do harm if it's used symathetically over a short period of time and is buit up gradually. Have it long, low and loose and work from there. I would check out all possible sources of pain first though.
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Post by gillwales on Aug 20, 2012 13:30:44 GMT
Do you want to keep this horse? If not then get in touch with the dealer you purchased from.
If you do then see if you get on with your new instructor and follow advice as she is the person you are paying, as for homework to follow in-between lessons to establish what she has taught you that lesson. I was always happy to do that for my clients
good luck
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Post by freyasmum on Aug 20, 2012 17:10:08 GMT
What are you feeding??
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Post by missbananas on Aug 22, 2012 16:07:05 GMT
I agree with gillwales and ginageo, get him looked all over, teeth, back-a good osteopath will check his hips/pelvis and hocks too, use the passoa to help him balance only if his teeth and back are ok, sling it low and don't force it as that will make it all worse, start just 5 mins each rein as it will make him tired mentally as well as physically, praise him lots when he's trying. Maybe look at using a rubber, happy mouth or vulcanite bit so he gets used to not having his teeth clangged, try some " bit butter" it's amazing stuff!!! If you trust him not to kick you do lots of long reining- this will help his confidence going off in front and will mean you can gently start to ask him to drop his head, I always lunge mine with 2 lines as when long reining because you can give and take your rein and be far softer on the mouth than with 1 lunge rein. Freyasmun is right about feed it can be hard when trying to build muscle not to over feed, i used weight builder-it's about £35 a bucket but you feed it like a Supplement it made my tb look very good without sending her nutty.
I've always left homework for my clients to do I between lessons, that's the point of teaching.
Hope all this helps. Best of luck and I really mean that as I have been in this situation and it's not fun xx
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Post by gillwales on Aug 22, 2012 16:59:03 GMT
you can also long rein from the side which means you can trot on a circle without having to charge after your neddy
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Post by missbananas on Aug 23, 2012 7:07:41 GMT
Just a thought as you said you didn't know his history and felt the dealer wasn't 100% honest... Is there not information on his passport about who had him before in Ireland?? You could always contact them?? Has he any breed papers because if he has you could contact his breeder?? Don't know if it would aid you current situation but it's always nice to know as much about them as you can.
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Post by missbananas on Aug 23, 2012 22:57:32 GMT
Yes my old mare was real power house and worked from behind-used to fling front shoes off right left and centre, was like sitting on a jackhammer, put your stirrups up a hole or 2 to keep your leg still and help balance then just practice and drop them down gradually as you feel happy to, work at home/gym to improve get strenghth ie squats, and work on you stomach will aid your balance too. So glad you had a better time with him, what bit do you ride him in?? Try not to worry about his head too much get him coming off your leg and into your hand and his head should sort its self out to a point. Well done so far stick at it he sounds like he's worth it!!!!
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