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Post by sidesaddlelady on Oct 14, 2010 7:41:17 GMT
hi everyone, a friend has a 17.2hh warmblood and is currently looking for a 3.5 tonne lorry to be built. She has been advised that staffordshire horseboxes do a nice one, but we have never heard of them and have not seen any our way (being down in Kent).
Could any of you recommend them or otherwise?
or any suggestions of other makes of 3.5 tonnes to carry a big horse would be good - my friend wants a new build or very very recent.
waiting in anticipation.....
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Post by emma3870 on Oct 14, 2010 8:24:03 GMT
jane has been making horseboxes for years and shows herself. they look good boxes. give her a ring. she will have a fair few in build at the same time and will email pics.
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Post by sallyw on Oct 14, 2010 10:04:07 GMT
How much does a 17.2hh warmblood weigh? and will he be happy with his head pressed against the ceiling? I dont think it matters which company makes the box, in my opinion a 3.5 ton box is not safe - and probably not legal by the time you have got all your stuff in ( the horse would probably weigh a ton on his own). Just my opinion - but I do live near to the M40/M42 and constantly hear of accidents with big horses in these small boxes on the motorway.
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Post by sidesaddlelady on Oct 14, 2010 10:35:23 GMT
apparently the ceiling height of the boxes are 8' - that must be as high as a normal lorry ceiling - these boxes are supposed to have a high payload too (although i would think she should only take one at a time).
We have lots of affiliated dressage down this way at equestrian centres down very narrow little lanes and the big boxes are a nuisance getting to and from. My friend already has a 7.5 tonne, but is going to replace it soon, as she lives up an extremely narrow lane at the top of a hill and it is very difficult manoeuvering there.
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Post by sallyw on Oct 14, 2010 12:05:18 GMT
A 17.2hh horse is 70 inches at the wither (5ft10in) - will he get his head and neck into 26 inches? I dont know as I only have smaller ponies but a 11.2hh pony standing in his normal position has the top of his head is around 14 inches above his wither - so one would presume that at 17.2 horse would have the top of his head at least 22 or 24 inches above his wither - and as I said before very close even to an 8ft high ceiling. If he threw his head up for any reason he would almost certainly hit the ceiling - and who knows what might happen then?
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Post by becki2810 on Oct 14, 2010 15:02:06 GMT
i personally find the 3.5 tonne lorries are only really suitable for ponies and small horses ,i travelled my 15.2hh Irish sports horse in one and just not enough power.
Just my opinion.
I no Jane and she also builds bigger lorries all her lorries are excellent and she will make what you want
Can PM number if required
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Post by dollar on Oct 14, 2010 15:56:06 GMT
hi jenny try looking at highfields horseboxes they are not far from you just by brands hatch i have borowed one a couple of times and they are very good they also do a 5 tonne version with air surspension only slightly bigger than a 3.5 tonne call garry on 01474700133 0r o7778356633 clair who runs dartford and district ridding club owns one and if you go on her website there is link to the horse box company
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Post by sallyw on Oct 14, 2010 17:00:00 GMT
I think Dollar and becki very sensible. I have sold far too many horsboxes to count over the years and there is just no way I would put a 17.2hh warmblood in a 3.5 ton lorry - no matter who made it!!
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Post by snowman on Oct 14, 2010 18:28:27 GMT
Can she not look into buying a 5 tonne lorry???
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Post by Wiltshire Man on Oct 15, 2010 6:55:05 GMT
look at these 2 websites www.galloperhorseboxes.com I like the 5 tonne and very good prices, this one. www.georgesmithhorseboxes.comI found a small horseboxes are a lot more expensive, not surprised about a lot of accident because while I was driving my horsebox on motoraway at 60 mph and they drove pass me like whizz, TUT TUT. |
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Post by thimble on Oct 15, 2010 7:34:56 GMT
Try Missina Horseboxes. (www.missina.com)
They build lovely small lorrys but the other half of the company is working with large fleet lorries so know what they are taking about with weights and safety.
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Post by network on Oct 15, 2010 7:44:26 GMT
I personally wouldnt put anything over 15 hands into a 3.5t horse box, not only due to the height of the horse but the weight, I would be very suprised if any 3.5 box has the payload to accomodate a horse of that size along with passengers, petrol, tack etc  |
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Post by sidesaddlelady on Oct 15, 2010 8:01:40 GMT
Thank you everyone - my friend has looked at the Messina boxes (as they advertise in the Dressage magazine a lot) and they do look really good with lots of safety features but they are in Devon which is a very long way away and they charge VAT. She has been told that the Staffordshire boxes do not have VAT.
Will get her to check out the ones mentioned by Wiltshire Man as have not heard of these and I am very surprised that anyone would drive a horse over 60mph
MUST GO, SOMEONE HAS JUST SPOTTED A RED SQUIRREL IN OUR GARDEN!!!
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 15, 2010 9:08:07 GMT
Thank you everyone - my friend has looked at the Messina boxes (as they advertise in the Dressage magazine a lot) and they do look really good with lots of safety features but they are in Devon which is a very long way away and they charge VAT. She has been told that the Staffordshire boxes do not have VAT. Will get her to check out the ones mentioned by Wiltshire Man as have not heard of these and I am very surprised that anyone would drive a horse over 60mph MUST GO, SOMEONE HAS JUST SPOTTED A RED SQUIRREL IN OUR GARDEN!!! Just wondering how a horsebox company could NOT be VAT registered? Surely just a couple (one in some cases) of sales would take them over the VAT threshhold |
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Post by sallyw on Oct 15, 2010 13:06:09 GMT
Julie Mc Neil builds a good 5 ton lorry - she is in the south.
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Post by conniegirl on Oct 15, 2010 18:08:49 GMT
highill - they could just have included VAT in the price overall instead of quoteing a pirce + VAT.
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Post by victoria (highhill) on Oct 15, 2010 18:40:26 GMT
mmm maybe - but then the price would/should say including VAt - because if you are VAT registered you would need to know this as you could then claim it back.
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Post by becki2810 on Sept 5, 2012 12:45:18 GMT
I have dealt with staffordshire horseboxes along with 3 friends, have always found them to be totally proffesional and honest!
My friend has actually just had a 2nd lorry from them not so long back and it is excellent!!
Always 2 sides to every story!
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Post by emma3870 on Sept 5, 2012 12:54:07 GMT
Where did you get Springfield from as Jane is nowhere near Springfield as far as I am aware?
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Post by fanfarefan on Sept 5, 2012 13:28:55 GMT
we have a 3.5 ton lorry and personally i dont think that a 17.2hh would fit in it comfortably , yes , you may get them in but i dont think it would safe , i reckon 15.5hh is a realistic and safe maximum size for that size of lorry
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Post by mandmfan on Sept 5, 2012 13:33:06 GMT
hi everyone, a friend has a 17.2hh warmblood and is currently looking for a 3.5 tonne lorry to be built. She has been advised that staffordshire horseboxes do a nice one, but we have never heard of them and have not seen any our way (being down in Kent). Could any of you recommend them or otherwise? or any suggestions of other makes of 3.5 tonnes to carry a big horse would be good - my friend wants a new build or very very recent. waiting in anticipation..... |
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Post by mandmfan on Sept 5, 2012 13:34:58 GMT
Courcheval Horseboxes are in Dartford and will build to your custom. I must admit though not sure if they would recommend putting a 17.2 in a 3.5 horsebox.
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Post by finc on Sept 5, 2012 16:04:07 GMT
I have known and dealt with Staffordshire Horseboxes for over 10 years and have found their service second to none! I have never had any problems with my lorry even when it was pulled over for load testing at Hickstead with my 17hh dressage horse on board!
Every care and attention was given to my requirements and my box is fab!
Some one appears to have an axe to grind which does not relate to an actual horse box manufactured by this Company !
For the record I do not have any relation to this Company other than that of a customer !!!!
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Post by SMG on Sept 5, 2012 19:48:38 GMT
We used ID Horseboxes in north Yorkshire, very good service and lorry is fab !
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Post by knowalot on Sept 5, 2012 22:01:19 GMT
My polite and truthfull comments about staffordshire horse boxes have been deleted.
I will keep this short: There are many horse box been made so please be careful to make sure you deal with honest and trust worthy people.
You are still wellcome to private mesage me for upto date news on my case if your doing research....
This is not a slanderous message so If this message gets deleted I will need to investigate....
What ever happened to freedom of speech?
Love , Peace and Light
Sarah
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Post by jojo333 on Sept 6, 2012 7:34:18 GMT
I have a Staffordshire horse box and it is fantastic. Build spec is second to none. Jane is wonderful and honest and nothing is ever to much trouble. I would without a doubt buy off Jane again.
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Post by knowalot on Sept 6, 2012 10:10:41 GMT
"NOTHING IS TOO MUCH TROUBLE"
I WAS 200 YARDS FROM THIER GATE WHEN THE GEARBOX BROKE.
PLEASE CONTACT ME FOR TRUTHFUL FACTS "NOT SLANDER"
I INTEND TO TELL ALL MY FRIENDS NOT TO LOOK INTO STAFFORDSHIRE HORSE BOXES AND LOOK AT THE MANY OTHER COMPANIES MAKING BOXES.
THIS MESSAGE IN NOT SLANDEROUS IN ANY WAY.
LOVE, PEACE AND TRUTH
Sarah
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Post by staffshb on Sept 6, 2012 14:07:00 GMT
Hi everyone i am Jayne Sansom managing director of Staffordshire Horseboxes . i dont need to go into the in s and outs, but
point 1 ) to prove knowalot is a liar , the vehicle in question is a crew cab vauxhall movano NOT A HORSEBOX
The rest will be sorted out in court and when i win i will post a copy of the order on her for all to see
Thankyou to all my lovely customers for all their years of support,
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