What Colour Please head shot included

[mardigras]

Joe appears to be dun at the moment and is registered as such.

DAm is registered black but is more liver chestnut
Sire is Cremello.

What colour could he end up he does have a dorsel stripe

[flo1]

If the mare was liver chestnut the foal would be palomino, so looks probable that the mare is black or (more likely) smokey black in which case the foal is buckskin

Mind you my youngster was born buckskin (bay x buckskin parents) and is now black

[sarahp]

Is the sire tested cremello or is that just shorthand for double dilute? And has he got a grey parent and/or been tested for the grey gene? My first reaction was buckskin possibly going grey, hence the questions on the sire.

[mardigras]

sire is registered cremello.Rosewallhill Silver Son.Not sure how all this works but he was on HG at one time.Perhaps someone will know more.

[sarahp]

Don't know him I'm afraid.

Correctly, cremello is double dilute chestnut, whereas double dilute bay is called perlino and dd black is smokey cream, although they can be very difficult to distinguish by eye and all are often erroneously labelled cremello. It is possible for any with a grey parent to carry grey without it being visible to the eye, but they can then sire foals that start off single dilute but grey out, often to the owner's surprise.

[mardigras]

thanks Sarah looks as though may have to wait and see

hes a healthy strapping lad thats all important.Perhaps it will be a nice surprise he is unusual.

[watchbank]

I would say liver chesnut to black.. my mare is palomino and her sire was perlino and her dam was liver

[Illeybrook]

Looks Dun/Buckskin but hard to say from this angle.

[flo1]

Oct 17, 2012 19:19:52 GMT watchbank said:

I would say liver chesnut to black.. my mare is palomino and her sire was perlino and her dam was liver

Can't be liver chestnut with a double dilute sire

[justliloldme]

i think he will grey out

[mardigras]

he has no grey in him(breeding wise) as far as i can see although his face is a little flecked with every colour imaginable

[sarahp]

As he is would be better described as buckskin (ie dilute bay), I very very much doubt he is dun which is a different gene altogether.

He will of course carry a dilute gene as his sire is double dilute, I wondered if he would go grey because the bits that I'd expect to be black look more of a mousey muddy grey in your photo - I know from experience that grey and dilute together do give some very funny colour changes, often involving that sort of muddy grey/brown.

[elmere]

Looks to be going grey to me, have you got a closer shot of his head?

[flo1]

Oct 22, 2012 8:08:39 GMT sarahp said:

- I know from experience that grey and dilute together do give some very funny colour changes, often involving that sort of muddy grey/brown.

I have a friend who covered her liver chestnut mare with a cremello Sec C stallion..the resulting colt whilst a very nice horse is the oddest colour - if he was a dog he would be described as brindle ;D

[mardigras]

brindles looking good ;D



think that should be his head

[smartgus]

gray i think and nice head

[mardigras]

thanks smartgus.and just to add in the flesh the light coloured patch between his nostrils is a beautiful palomino colour

[elmere]

Looks to have grey goggles around his eyes and grey through his swirl.