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Post by rebeccsanders on Nov 2, 2012 19:26:28 GMT
I have been searching for a safe first pony for my 7 year old son. Twice I have been first to call and arrange a viewing, usually at the next available weekend (as my son is at school). I have been promised first refusal, I have been reassured they wont sell their pony until I've been, I've rung references, shown my son the pictures and videos, arranged for my other children to be looked after so I can go and see the pony. Twice I have been rung at the last minute to say they have sold their pony to someone else. This seems like the height of rudeness to me. I feel I would never, could never be so ruthless (especially as it is a pony for a child)!
How do these people sleep at night?
We were sold a 'super safe pony' who was advertised as 'a wee pram on legs' who is really sharp and has thrown him off countless times. I'm absolutely at my wits end as I fear my stoic, brave little boy will not carry on riding if I can't find him a nice pony.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 2, 2012 20:20:05 GMT
look on my website - www.cayberrydartmoors.co.uk & a lady called Sarah Weston has a Cayberry mare for sale - I can pm you her number - she is in Lancs - very suitable and has been there done that, 8yrs. Do feel free to give me a call if I can help. |
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Post by busymare on Nov 2, 2012 20:32:05 GMT
I really feel for you and your son. Buying and selling is horrid I try to avoid both (although I prefer the former to the latter!)
I can't understand the mentality that you have met- obviously in this market they don't want to turn a seller down but nobody is forcing them to give you first refusal they could just be honest and say they will sell to the first person to pay.
Poor little boy I hope you find the perfect pony soon.
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Post by brindlerainbow on Nov 2, 2012 20:34:02 GMT
Safe first ponies are like gold dust. I would suggest not ringing until a Friday night so that you can arrange to view first thing on a Saturday morning.The trouble is lots of people do ring and arrange to view ponies then they dont bother turning up or even letting the sellers know. Im not suggesting for 1 second that you would do this but if a definate buyer comes along then a seller would be silly not to sell the pony to them. Good luck im sure you will find the perfect pony soon
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Post by busymare on Nov 2, 2012 20:42:36 GMT
Also I'm sure you've already been scouring the board but I LOVE the look of the buckskin mare from Taraco stud. I don't know them or the pony but if my daughter didn't already have 2 ponies I would have been on the phone about this gorgeous little mare! www.taraco-stud.co.uk |
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Post by rebeccsanders on Nov 2, 2012 20:50:46 GMT
I would rather the sellers were honest and said come up asap then you know where you stand. If I knew I had to get to the pony quick sharp I would. I guess I naively think people will be honest when I've had such a long conversation with them. It scares me how easily convinced I am. I had such a long lovely chat with this latest seller about how I had been let down before and was assured that I would be the first to view. It's heartbreaking and very hard to explain to a child how mean people can be. Thank you for the info re:pony. I will look into it. I'm pretty worried about ending up with another awful pony or having another horrible experience like this. It's a minefield.
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Post by FF on Nov 2, 2012 21:17:44 GMT
Having been at the other end of people saying they will coming to view and then don't even turn up or ring to let you know I can see where the selling is coming from but they really shouldn't say they will let you view 1st. Atleast they phoned you though.
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Post by nightrider on Nov 7, 2012 21:33:28 GMT
I have just been let down. Saturday night yes i said i would love the pony. All excited it was gorgeous. I had already said cannot pick it up for 2 wks it that ok. Of course i will look agter him for you. 2 days later sorry sold him hes going in 2 days for more money. Furious!! 8 hr drive to get there!ahwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
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Post by Jenna on Nov 7, 2012 21:38:35 GMT
sorry to hear that, did you leave a deposit?
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Post by Mum, skivvy, groom, driver on Nov 7, 2012 21:43:37 GMT
i travelled 4 hours each way, to see a pony and when i rang follwoing day- they had changed their mind and were going to keep it!!!!
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Post by haaaaanandcaspian on Nov 7, 2012 22:15:51 GMT
We had arranged to drive up with box about 5 hour round trip to try and bring home said horse, arranged to have morning off collage and too catch up on work... Cancelled night before.
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Post by ruftytuftyrider on Nov 7, 2012 22:42:15 GMT
If the pony is too far away to go to see after school then it probably would be better to ring on a Friday with a view to viewing on Saturday.
I agree that if someone says you can have first refusal you would expect them to not accept an offer until you had been able to view but on the flip side of that from what I have seen on here there are more ponies for sale than buyers so I would imagine it would be extremely difficult to say no to a cash offer.
Reading this I have discovered how lucky I was with our pony - he was the fourth pony we viewed over one weekend and decided to buy on the way home and he was delivered two days later. We had been told that he had done lots of things but in fact he hadn't - we would have still bought him if we had known he was green - he has turned out to be the most fabulous pony.
Could you get someone to work with your "super safe pony" so that he does become the super safe pony your boy wants without having to buy another pony.
Good luck with finding the right pony for your boy.
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Post by bethanyy on Nov 7, 2012 22:47:11 GMT
I've just experienced it from the buyers perspective though, just had some horrible news  We sold my first pony about a year and a half ago, and we believe he had been abused in some way in Ireland as a 4 year old because he was extremely head shy. I outgrew the pony because I wanted to be out competing at county level however I was restricted on him so we sold him to a brilliant home. Just received a message from the lady who bought him telling me she has to sell him because she ant afford him. It's absolutely heartbreaking that we have first refusal but can't afford to buy him back I'm so upset, what will happen to my boy? People want the perfect pony and that's exactly what he was. |
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Post by nici on Nov 8, 2012 0:17:19 GMT
I'm afraid that's a sign of the times Beth  People buy ponies with the best of intentions, but none of us can predict the future. Circumstances change, and if his owner can't afford to keep him, I'm sure she will do her very best to find him another lovely home. |
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Post by bethanyy on Nov 8, 2012 9:27:49 GMT
I know she will I trust her Nici, she has given him a lovely home just hopes she finds one just as good for him. If we had the money I would buy him back in a heartbeat!!
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Post by desktop on Nov 8, 2012 10:27:35 GMT
I've just experienced it from the buyers perspective though, just had some horrible news We sold my first pony about a year and a half ago, and we believe he had been abused in some way in Ireland as a 4 year old because he was extremely head shy. I outgrew the pony because I wanted to be out competing at county level however I was restricted on him so we sold him to a brilliant home. Just received a message from the lady who bought him telling me she has to sell him because she ant afford him. It's absolutely heartbreaking that we have first refusal but can't afford to buy him back I'm so upset, what will happen to my boy? People want the perfect pony and that's exactly what he was.  I bet it has been a hard decision for her to make, they love Sam and wouldnt have made it lightly. I am sure she will find him a good home, I wish I had room for him  |
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Post by hs on Nov 9, 2012 9:57:35 GMT
Bearing mind the seller does not know you and does not know if when you come you will like the pony I think it is difficult for them to offer you first refusal.
So if someone comes during the week and wants the pony and it seems like a good home then what do they do? They could call you but them you have said you can't come till the weekend by which time they could loose the first person who is interested and you could come and then find the pony not suitable.
The market is not great at the moment and we are coming into winter. I can understand the sellers viewpoint they want to sell the pony and will try and do what they can to do so this might mean that they say to you can have first refusal at the time when you call but they may change their mind if another buyer comes along offering cash and not wanting a vettting etc as they may come across as an easier sale! Alternatively with the very good first ponies they often go through word of mouth and sometimes sellers will prefer to sell to someone they know or through the pony club even if they have promised the pony to someone else.
Have you tried speaking to your local pony club to see if they have any suitable ponies or are you looking for a top show pony sort rather than a pony club all rounder?
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Post by wigsy on Nov 9, 2012 19:58:36 GMT
I have just ended up with a pony I thought I had lost the chance of having, his advert disappeared and I presumed he was sold, then it appeared again on another site a month or so later (not that I kept googling his description every day!) I then discovered he had only just been sold, gutted! I was contacted by his original owner a month later saying he was for sale, appears he was not what the people who bought him had hoped for, poor boy. A couple of heart wrenching weeks, negotiation, horsebox breakdowns (twice!) from the transporter (by now he was a six hour drive from me) and some assistance from his original owner (for which I am eternally grateful) he has been with us or three weeks and we love him to bits and at the age of 3 he loves his forever home! There are happy endings :-)
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Post by wigsy on Nov 9, 2012 20:05:09 GMT
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Post by 5874julie on Nov 11, 2012 14:47:34 GMT
I drove for two and a half hours with my young daughter to see a pony after two long telephone calls with owners who were effusively friendly. As I pulled up in the yard the owner walked across to the car to tell me they had just sold him! it turned out that we would have been the fourth lot of viewers that day and the third lot bought him! if i had known there were any other viewers, never mind 3, i would not have gone as the pony would have been on its knees and i would not have been able to assess it properly as a child's pony. but i couldn't believe that the owners did not contact me. When i suggested this, she simply said 'We didn't think the other people would want him'!
I have also been in the situation where I was selling, and some people said they would come and see the pony the next weekend and pretty much demanded first refusal, saying they were extremely keen. I turned away another highly suitable viewer on this basis, (who went off and bought something else that weekend), and on the saturday morning the original people rang to cancel. as a result i would now never offer first refusal. and if i am going to look at something to buy i ring just before i leave home!
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Post by honeypot on Nov 11, 2012 18:21:08 GMT
I hate selling ponies and childs ponies even more, but providing I think they are a suitable home its the first one with the cash so I would take a deposit in cash.
I would ring up before you set off, this reasures the sellers you are actually coming and you can ask if anyone has viewed/ridden the pony that day.
When I sell I only have one veiwing a day but some people are pretty pushy and its hard this time of year with shorter days.
Good luck, our first pony was not a show stopper but turned out to be perfect for us.
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Post by hollyberry86 on Nov 12, 2012 20:31:24 GMT
When I was looking for my first pony it took nearly 2 years and a fair bit of heartbreak. I had three occasions where a pony was bought by others under my nose. The first two I went to see the pony but wanted to think about it on the way home and rang up to offer to buy and in both occasions pony had already been sold as they had another viewing later that day. I learnt my lesson in not delaying if you are sure you want something. The next pony I arrange to view and as it was more convenient to them went in the afternoon absolutely fell in love with the pony and decided then and there to put down a deposit however some other people had seen the pony in the morning and he had given them first refusal so of course they then went ahead and bought him. I was incredibly disappointed, it was a long journey, we arranged to see pony first and would have thought twice about going I we'd known they'd give someone first refusal.
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People buy ponies with the best of intentions, but none of us can predict the future. Circumstances change, and if his owner can't afford to keep him, I'm sure she will do her very best to find him another lovely home. 
