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Post by Huntingmum on Nov 12, 2012 15:44:31 GMT
I have a 12 hh section A riding 4 that I am breaking at the moment, but have an issue with his bit. I have initally used a mouthing bit with keys....he was not a happy chap at all..on inspection he had 2 wolf teeth  I had them removed in September and now slowly starting again.....now he isnt happy closing his mouth around the bit and accepting it  I have tried several bits to see if I can help him ..as soon as I put pressure down the reins/long lines he opens his mouth?!! He also insists on over bending and tucking his nose to his chest...any advise will be greatly appreciated! |
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Post by bethanyy on Nov 12, 2012 15:48:07 GMT
What bits have you tried? Has his mouth fully healed?
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Post by sometime on Nov 12, 2012 17:31:48 GMT
coat the bit in honey, use a bit wrap or if safe to do so you could put the bit in and feed him so he has to learn how to move his mouth round with the bit in.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 12, 2012 17:47:42 GMT
A simple french link snaffle is the one I use to mouthe and ride in afterwards.
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Post by gillwales on Nov 12, 2012 17:49:09 GMT
try a happy mouth bit on a little pony
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Post by sarahp on Nov 12, 2012 18:39:36 GMT
I do the same as Jane M, and I work with them in the stable to start with just asking for flexions with my hands on the reins near the mouth, relax and praise when they give to the bit.
Having learned the hard way I always check for wolf teeth before putting a bit in, and have them removed before doing so.
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Post by michelle22 on Nov 12, 2012 20:31:54 GMT
My newly broken youngster has large wolf teeth i ride him I'n a happy mouth jointed fulmer and i have it a hole lower than it should b, as if i put it up higher he starts to open his mouth and flick his head about.but having it lower I'n his mouth and nice soft hands he goes like a dream  |
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Post by michelle22 on Nov 12, 2012 20:34:18 GMT
My newly broken youngster has large wolf teeth i ride him I'n a happy mouth jointed fulmer and i have it a hole lower than it should b, as if i put it up higher he starts to open his mouth and flick his head about.but having it lower I'n his mouth and nice soft hands he goes like a dream |
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Post by Huntingmum on Nov 12, 2012 20:42:21 GMT
thank you for all the help and advise ....his mouth has healed lovely..but yes...I am learning the hard way..just hope I can convince him! honey and a bit in whilst eating his feed...he is very happy to eat his hay..but will leave it in whilst having his tea....french link i will try... I have used a happy mouth but the thickess is too much ..his mouth is tiny......keep all this useful info coming ..I really do appreciate it!!! |
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Post by gillwales on Nov 12, 2012 21:15:19 GMT
I had a fine straight bar one if I recall correctly it was an apple one? I used it on a yearling 12.2 colt, it was very successful, however I am a great fan of a loose ring french link and a bit I use as a basic snaffle. If you do use a metal bit hold it in your hand first so you warm it up even if you put treacle or honey on it, that way it will not be a shock to the mouth.
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Post by 09rebel99 on Nov 12, 2012 21:42:24 GMT
I found bit tape a huge help when I did my a. I had a full cheek sweet iron bit in and wrapped the tape round each side. It only needed a thin strip each side and I use to walk him out in it but fastened the lead to the noseband or put headcollar over the top before I started working him in it and use to put treacle on too. He had a lovely soft mouth when I backed him :-)
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Post by cayo on Nov 13, 2012 7:46:52 GMT
Hi what have you done with him prior to trying to long rein him have you actually mouthed him or just stood him in bit and then tried to long rien ?
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Post by Huntingmum on Nov 13, 2012 10:57:47 GMT
Hi Cayo......I have tried all sorts of different ways ..stood him with loose contact ....initial ground work has been to the halter and not the bit.....on contact he seems to open his mouth only slighly to evade then tuck his nose to his chest....he hasnt been tied in or lunged in sides to encourage this...
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Post by cayo on Nov 14, 2012 11:36:42 GMT
Hi Cayo......I have tried all sorts of different ways ..stood him with loose contact ....initial ground work has been to the halter and not the bit.....on contact he seems to open his mouth only slighly to evade then tuck his nose to his chest....he hasnt been tied in or lunged in sides to encourage this... i would get someone used to mouthing to help you ,its not best way forward to try to long rien before pony understands what the bit is about and its not unusual for them to evade at first by dropping hed behind or rushing forward into the bit with head up to fight it when first long reining get him happy with side reins and lungeing with them on before trying to long rein again i would help if i was nearer good luck |
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Post by Huntingmum on Nov 14, 2012 13:36:11 GMT
Advise taken! Thank you so much...will find someone local to me to take the task on! I really dont want to instill and issues in his very young mind! |
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Post by tinytot on Nov 25, 2012 22:25:08 GMT
Magic bit / Cambridge snaffle (straight bar with small port) Are good for ponies that are sensitive to a jointed snaffle, we had same issues with our youngster but it settled in its month after a few rides in this bit.
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