IS this ok for my laminatic pony to eat?

[ladyloobestmare]

the food ive bought for my ExmoorXDartmoor loan pony is sugarbeet and mollichaff. This is what he has when he was at his owners yard- he is laminatic, I have been told (obv. beause of his breeding)so does everybody think that this is ok for him? He will also get hay :)

[Milliesmum]

I would have thought that amount of sugar was a no-no for anything laminitic. There are lots of anti-laminitic mixes on the market but beware of changing his diet too quickly.

[dancer]

Any chaff will need to be 'unmollassed' & I don't imagine that sugarbeet will do him any good.

Our laminitic is fed hay & Dengie Hi-Fi Lite on the vets instructions but if you need to give him hard feed I would choose one that'sapproved by the 'laminitus trust'.

[sweetpea]

I AGEE NO TO THE SUGARBEET.SPEAK TO YOUR FEED SUPPLIER PLENTY FEED FOR LAMANITICS

[shelleyj]

we use unmolassed beet (speedibeet) on ours with no probs

[diadem]

I agree, no beet. When we ve had troubles in the past we ve found that a goog old branmash everyweek also helpful.

[thecremellosociety]

Speedi beet is lamititis approved and non mollassed i have sed on ponies with no problems.

[Ani]

I know what you all mean you are saying exactly what i am thinking- sugar beet no and MOLLASSES?NO WAY but my other welshX mare has been laminatic and is always fine on sugarbeet, and he is frmo a trekking centre and the owner said that is what he is fed. I did think about buying nthe speedi-beet. Im going to just see how he gets on as he's not actively laminatic just had it a while back and you obv cant feed him the same amounts of sugar as a regular animal, thats all. he isnt especially bad, i think im gonna try him, i just wanted peoples opinions. Thanks

[kerry750]

I had a specialist equine vet to mine and he advised I put him on the following as did the laminitis society.

I had him on a small (football size) net of hay day and night, I put it in 3 small holed nets and suspended it from the celin so i will last him longer and keep him occupied. If u soak it, it reduces the sugar in the hay (u'd be suprised the sugar level in hay).

He had 4 - 6 round scoops of hifi lite 3 times a day, This is to keep the gut moving and there is nothing dangerous in it. He had 1/2 round scoop of happy hoof, a pint jug of speedi beet and formular 4 feet for breakfast and tea. He had Danalon and ACP's.

I had to restrict his movement so he didnt leave his box for 4 months but thank god he is an angel and nothing phases him. His shavings bed had to be 10 inches deep. My horse was crippled though!!!

He has been back in work for a year and he is fab!!!! His diet has stayed more or less the same, but he has Magnesium as lamanitics are deficient in this and it works!!!! He has Hifi lite as a hay replacer however as he is now working harder he has hay at night and Hifi lite if he is in by day, if he goes out he wears a muzzle and only goes out 2 -3 days a week and he has Hifi at night instead of hay. He has a ball with hifi nuts in by day to keep him occupied when in. Also If i am concerned he is looing a bit lean and needs condition I add a little Alfa A Oil to his Hifi Lite!!!

I have recently rung Winergy as I was concerned he was working harder and having high levels of fiber, I though he may require a little more but I was advised what I was feeding was fine and not to change it .

I HAVE LEARNT SO MUCH ABOUT THIS CONDITION OVER A DIFFICULT 3 YEARS AND i WISH I COULD HELP MOE PEOPLE HELP THEIR PONIES. IF ANYONE WANTS MORE HELP WITH THIS PLEASE PM ME.

Kxx

[drenrowstud]

we feed our 2 ponies that equine metabolic syndrome that makes them prone to laminitis with hifi lite from dengie and we take some of the juice from the soaked speedibeet(unmolased) to damp it down we found they wont eat it otherwise (very fussy our two) they also get top spec antilam feed balancer . they get regular small nets of old or soaked new hay they get restricted grazing in the summer with dinky pony muzzles and then get a top up with hay .

we find this works very well they get turned out on sand in the winter and get small haynets whilst out they both get regular excercise one is driven and the other keeps our stallion entertained as she cant breed .

[matthewso585]

i have heard cut down the sugar with a lammy pony? x i think speedibeat is alright so you may have to ask an expert xx good luck with it all im sure the pony will be fine!!

[help]

Hi,

I feed my laminitics
well soaked hay - 3 wads per day
Happy Hoof & 2 (old kitchen slotted) spoons of speedibeet
good old EPSOM SALTS - cheap and provide the magnesium replacement
and a liver tonic if we think they are pushing it - Boots do a Milk Thistle tincture, a couple of drops to detox.
But we also provide an all weather paddock for them to go out in constantly - big enough to keep them moving round and happy so they don't get cabin fever from the stables. We just got loads of woodchip from local forestry commission free and spread it out to make a big deep surface. Its great for lunging in too, doesn't freeze, but will need to be topped up after a couple of years.

[avrose]

Spillers high fibre cubes,hi-fi light and speedi-beet are all suitable for laminitics.

[nici]

My Welsh A mare was crippled with lami in all 4 hooves 7 months ago. For 4 months she was kept on total box rest and while she improved to being nearly sound, she was still a bit footy. She was only having one haynet (well soaked hay) daily and a small feed of Happy Hoof. She was stressed out and miserable in her stable - she's an outdoor girl.

At the end of August I moved her to a friend's yard, to a woodchip turnout paddock with field shelter. She's now a happy healthy little pony, 100% sound, able to graze with my other ponies for a few hours a day, and back in light work.

Other than the grass, she has adlib well soaked hay in several nets around her paddock to encourage movement, two meals a day of Happy Hoof with Top Spec Healthy Hoof supplement, garlic and a smidge of Omega oil. My farrier can't believe the difference since I moved her - he kept up the doom and gloom predictions as she just didn't seem to be getting better.

All ponies are different. Some cope with being stabled better than others. My little mare had been a broodie before I bought her and had never been stabled. If she goes in a stable now, she box walks or leans against the door trying to force her way out. I'm convinced the stress of being confined made her symptoms last longer.

I'm now in the process of making my own woodchip paddock for her - we've moved most of 2 huge trailer loads of the stuff this weekend!!!

Yesterday afternoon, a couple of hours into the job:



This morning:



This evening:



The paddock under construction:



Bit off topic I know, but for anyone else with a lami pony that doesn't like being confined, but can't have 24/7 turnout on grass, there is an alternative - if you have an understanding yard owner (what a fantastic facility to be able to advertise ) or your own land...

[waitwith]

My section A had lammi in 2004 due to the toxins in a sting of all things!

Anyway we feed her
Happy Hoof
Top Spec
Lammi Prone supplement
Cider vinegar
and Garlic

She gets feeds morning and night including the above, and also gets hay.

I would reccomend the lammi prone supplement because it is not too expensive, and i know of others whose ponies are happy on it aswell.

[Julie(luke3)]

I have to say I am very pleased with happyhoof. My 2 fat welshys love it! good luck

[paininthebutt]

Nov 1, 2008 14:15:16 GMT dancer said:

Any chaff will need to be 'unmollassed' & I don't imagine that sugarbeet will do him any good.

Our laminitic is fed hay & Dengie Hi-Fi Lite on the vets instructions but if you need to give him hard feed I would choose one that'sapproved by the 'laminitus trust'.

Dengie Hi-Fi Lite contains BHA - a highly dangerous oil preserver. I wonder what these specially approved lami feeds contain. I expect they'll be playing on the "no grains" theory and using something awful. Probably soya (which slows down the absorption of minerals).

[graysonsdusk]

Hey, my shetland gelding was struck down with laminitis in summer 2007. We firstly regulated the amount of hard standing present in the stable to help cushion the sole of his feet using shavings. Correct feeding is essential and its not just about the feeding it includes lots of visits from the farrier and corrective trimming. We did not have the vet come out to our gelding but regulated his diet to good quality hay and spillers happy hoof as this is probably the best feed to give to laminitics without the use of supplements and anti inflammatories. It took exactly 4 weeks for him to return to full soundness and back riding at shows and lived out all this year and never been struck down again. The farrier should be able to tell you the progression of the bruising of the white line with the hoof.

I honestly thougt that it was the end when he was brought in from the field that day but with a good farrier and essential diet the end product was it saved my pony. Total box rest is bad as the constant weight placed down the forelimbs pressures the pedal bone to rotate more and gentle inhand walking elevates the pain from the toe.

If you manage your diet correctly the results will be fab! If people look at the back of there feed bags all laminitics supplements and feeds have the same vital minerals. So one feed saves you money and too much food overload!