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Post by Em5 on Nov 14, 2012 20:31:14 GMT
It does sound like a saddle/back problem. Is he wearing the same saddle that you tired him in? has he changed in shape since having the saddle checked? I would get a second opinion on his saddle and back in the first instance. My pony was exactly the same and it did turn out to be a mixture of his back and his saddle. The problem was made a 100 times worse when we gave him a full clip. which I will never do again, he bacame very over sensitive to the touch. has your pony been clipped?
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Post by katealice89 on Nov 14, 2012 21:31:23 GMT
This is just like my section a so very interested in this post ! Xx
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Post by kayleigh on Nov 14, 2012 21:35:45 GMT
Is his diet different to at his old home? What's your stable management routine? Turnout etc?
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Post by sjw87 on Nov 14, 2012 21:37:45 GMT
Is his routine the same as at previous owners place? What's he fed on? Have you asked them for advice?
Some horses just don't settle in some places but it it's so refreshing to hear someone trying to resolve a problem than just selling on. I wish you all the best.
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Post by wilbs on Nov 14, 2012 22:13:19 GMT
Young ponies take their confidence from their riders - when you bring a pony to a new environment which is all new to them they are often a little more nervous as they don't know where they fit and feel uncertain about things. This has been exacerbated by your young rider getting nervous and there you have it. You have only had him five months - its still very early days. You need to get a quiet confident jockey to ride him regularly and ignore the spooking and he will learn. Don't overfeed him and have him turned out as much as possible. Ride him along with a more sensible pony and take him hacking, and he will get more confidence from that. Good luck - give him time.
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Post by sometime on Nov 14, 2012 22:30:28 GMT
Young ponies take their confidence from their riders - when you bring a pony to a new environment which is all new to them they are often a little more nervous as they don't know where they fit and feel uncertain about things. This has been exacerbated by your young rider getting nervous and there you have it. You have only had him five months - its still very early days. You need to get a quiet confident jockey to ride him regularly and ignore the spooking and he will learn. Don't overfeed him and have him turned out as much as possible. Ride him along with a more sensible pony and take him hacking, and he will get more confidence from that. Good luck - give him time. I agree wholeheartedly with all of that It can take a very long time for a pony to settle into a new home especially if they are a bit suspicious by nature. A good quiet rider hacking him out so he gets to know his surroundings will be a huge help I am sure |
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Post by katealice89 on Nov 15, 2012 13:09:16 GMT
Im in process of changing my ponies bit. I think the reason mines doing this is thais time last yr chico was mis treated and has slight truat issues. Also he was on turnout every day in his old home and i was sily enough to put on hayledge when when i asked old owners hes always been on hay !!! Keep incontact with old owners xx
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Post by Ballyr95 on Feb 7, 2013 22:48:02 GMT
His routine and feeding are all identical to that of his previous owners, we took care to make sure of this. We are in contact with the previous owners all the time - he is turned out daily and fed 'cool' feeds. Also he is always ridden with 3 other very sensible ponies.
We got his back rechecked and he did have an injury. This was all sorted and he has been a lot better since with my older jockey who has been building up his confidence. However I'm not keen on him becoming too used to a bigger rider as he does tend to have a bit more spark with a bigger rider and I'd like to keep him as much a small child's pony as possible.
His proper rider still is very nervous and I realise the poor pony picks up on this but we are prepared to take it slowly.
Any tips on building up rock bottom rider confidence?
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Post by heidi1 on Feb 8, 2013 9:43:20 GMT
A lot depends on the child and what type of personality they've got. With my youngest, taking all pressure and expectation off and telling her we're going back to riding on lead / lunge in mainly walk with the occasional trot if she says she wants to has the effect of after 10 minutes max her telling me to let her off lead, next ride refusing point blank to be led and informing me that she's going to canter him. She's one of these that reverse psychology works a treat on - though I must confess I didn't let her canter as pony is a touch exuberant at the moment and child is only 6. It has the effect of changing the focus making her grumpy with me as i'm "mean and won't let her do things" rather than worrying that pony's going to go whoopee! Whilst its great for turning wobbly moments around quite quickly, I wouldn't want to push things as it's only February and a lot of things that can seem a problem resolve with time as the child physically grows and legs get longer and their overall body strength improves. You know your child best, this works for us but may not suit you.
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Post by jump4joy on Feb 10, 2013 16:13:55 GMT
Totally agree with wilbs; What's in the brain goes down the rein, it doesn't matter how old your rider if they are apprehensive, tense, lack commitment ( I mean that more in the sense of positivity not dedication), the pony/horse will sense it immediately, then it's fight or flight! Hence the 'shooting syndrome' You need to instil reassurance, confidence through a confident quiet rider to ride him, get your own jockey to start riding something else to reassure her/him too and gradually re-introduce them when they both have settled in their work. however,it may well be that they just don't gel because they both anticipate a situation with each other hence 'the shooting' but that the pony gels with a completely new rider, if that is the case I would draw the line because when a child looses it's confidence in any sport it is entirely possible that it could stay with them for a long time. Far better to find a combination where pony and child trust and enjoy each other. Had a very similar situation but older rider, Went to a Katie Jeram clinic, Katie put her finger on such a situation with my daughter within a very short while. At the end of the session
her words were, 'I wanted to take you off the pony and put you on something else'' so you enjoyed yourself, commenting that the pony is sensitive and my daughter was anticipating his behaviour and not riding him forward and trying to instil stability. My older daughter who always used to ride him with no problem, came home jumped on him no issue...sometimes trying too hard does more harm. I am not saying this is the only solution but don't upset pony and child it's just not worth it! :-) x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2013 16:23:21 GMT
I would go back to basics, let him live in a roller and tie carrier bags to it - I do it all the time.
Just be careful if he panicks he can't injure himself - you need a big loose box and fasten the top door for the first few times. I've had ponies in like this to sort - its all about desensitising. Saying that it also comes from the temprement of the pony - Sire - Dam - I have found it with stock that are bred from true moor stock so some is inbred! Try a wider saddle with a thick numnah too. Hope that helps
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Post by ponyclubpartbred on Apr 28, 2013 14:32:46 GMT
Sounds like a back problem- would get it checked out. back problems can be triggered at any time and if it is for no reason you can identify, it sounds like it could be something physical.
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