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Post by kris on Nov 21, 2012 16:05:18 GMT
I have an 8 week old Jack Russell Puppy only had him 5 days and ive started from day one putting him in a crate at night and a few hours through the day time but he hates going in there and crys and whinnes alot ive tryed ignoring him as much as possible but he doesnt seem to be getting better any ideas?
im considering trying a pen instead do you think this will help?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 16:19:36 GMT
It took my dacshund x about 2 weeks to get used to her crate she whined, barked, screached.Bbut now its her house, she goes in it on her own accord and shes quite protective over it if the cats try go in it or the big dog. i know its hard but you really do have to ignore them. i didnt talk to her or acknowledge her at all, she went in at bedtime after night walk and came out first thing in the morning. she goes in in the day if nobody is in the house. but otherwise she is free to come and go. We did treat her when she went in on her own when it was bed time rather than us pick her up and put her in.
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Post by wilbs on Nov 21, 2012 16:21:49 GMT
I am afraid you just have to persevere. Put a radio on if it annoys you. Cover one end of the cage with an old curtain or the like to make a secure end and give him plenty of toys etc. Is the cage in the same room as you at night? He is just a baby and still settling in - don't give up.
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Post by rabbit on Nov 21, 2012 16:57:45 GMT
i only crate at night , last thing, put the puppy in with a small treat on the bed and shut the door, turn off the light and leave!!! dont go back! in the morning, open the crate and straight outside for a wee, but i think if you crate in the day and are still around, that is unfair as the puppy naturally wants to be with you, i have a gate across kitchen door, to stop the puppy running throughout house, amd move it to the sitting room door in the evening, confining it to the room with us, much easier to monitor the wee situation! also put her out every hour during day, and after food and when she wakes up, they soon get the idea, if an accident happens dont scold but pick up and put out immediately, when you do take the puppy outside and it wees or poos praise it very loudly, they learn very quickly.
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Post by nia2311 on Nov 21, 2012 20:48:59 GMT
Maybe a little off topic, but what is the need to crate train? We had two dogs, a Labrador and a collie, and neither ever went into a crate (we didn't possess one) and were never shut in anything smaller than the kitchen, even as pups. I am asking as I had never come across crate training until I spoke to my new vets and reading on here - we don't have dogs at the moment, our two died age 14 a while back.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 21, 2012 20:54:24 GMT
We crate trained ours as she was rescused and had absolutley no manners or boundaries and we wanted her to learn she has her own space and she couldn't sleep upstairs with us and she couldn't have the run of the house when we were out. She's learnt and respects her rules now. She has access to her crate when we are all in and sometimes goes in it. But she knows when its bed time and when we are going out. Its been helpful really I only got one as it was suggested to me on here.
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Post by kris on Nov 22, 2012 11:26:48 GMT
Thank you everyone for your advise i will keep persevering with it he was alot better lastnight and only woke up crying once so thats a huge improvement. i think at the moment he associated going in crate means being left but its still early days we have only had him 6 days, once he is house trained i will allocate a room to him at night and when we are not there so the crate training is only going to be a short term thing i just cant stand hearing him upset it breaks my heart, when we are home he has the run of the whole house.
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Post by wilbs on Nov 22, 2012 12:56:48 GMT
Maybe a little off topic, but what is the need to crate train? We had two dogs, a Labrador and a collie, and neither ever went into a crate (we didn't possess one) and were never shut in anything smaller than the kitchen, even as pups. I am asking as I had never come across crate training until I spoke to my new vets and reading on here - we don't have dogs at the moment, our two died age 14 a while back. It gives them their own personal space where they can escape from small children etc. or just somewhere to chill. I have two labs and when I bought the first (mum) was given a cage to borrow. Breeder said at least you know you can come back and your house will be intact. Best thing ever. Bought one for her and when she had pups, they were at 5-6 weeks split into two cages overnight and all her pups (we have one) were happy and felt secure in their new homes. The owners all remarked how they loved their cage (although some had not thought about having a cage) and I did not push the issue. Mine don't have a cage now but I know they don't mind if I lived somewhere where it might be necessary. And having had two JRs who constantly escaped, I wished I had had a cage for them. They had a short but happy life but might have had a longer one had I thought about cage training. |
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Post by dazycutter on Nov 22, 2012 18:13:54 GMT
I crate train all of mine from 8 weeks..in as much as if I put a crate up now, they would all dive in and fight who gets in first.
make it a nice place to go, not a punishment. Feed the puppy in the crate, leave the door open so they have a choice.
If your having issues, wait till puppy is sleepy and put them in for short periods and make a big fuss of them. teh key is to make it a good place to be. So many times I hear people say, oh, we put them in it when they are naughty. That is a huge mistake which I am sure your not doing.
Try putting the crate in the same room as you in the evening and put some toys in leaving the door open so they have the choice and dont see it as confinement.
worst thing is to let them out when they cry as they have then got you over a barrell.
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Post by dazycutter on Nov 22, 2012 18:16:13 GMT
Maybe a little off topic, but what is the need to crate train? We had two dogs, a Labrador and a collie, and neither ever went into a crate (we didn't possess one) and were never shut in anything smaller than the kitchen, even as pups. I am asking as I had never come across crate training until I spoke to my new vets and reading on here - we don't have dogs at the moment, our two died age 14 a while back. The need is to give them a safe place to be. So here is the scenario. you go out shopping, leave puppy in the kitchen, utility whatever, come back to find pup has eaten something htey shouldnt have, chewed electrical wiring and electrocuted themselves, etc etc etc. Also it is their "safe place" and there den. |
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Post by nia2311 on Nov 22, 2012 21:49:29 GMT
Fair enough. Our two did cause minor destruction as pups (slippers, wicket baskets), and they had their dog beds in the kitchen under the table. When we went out, they just roamed round the downstairs (upstairs had stair gate) and I don't ever recall any problems. If they wanted quiet time, they went in the basket and we left them alone. I had never seen a dog crate until I met my MIL and she used it for her Bijon Frisse. It looked awful small to me! Glad everyone else found them useful in any case.
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