sarahp
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Post by sarahp on Dec 5, 2012 11:25:21 GMT
Like many I check the wanted ads from time to time to see if any fit anything I might have available to sell. I have noticed with annoyance that the term "native" which I would expect to mean one of our registered native pony breeds, is being used for coloureds, on its own with no further definition. Very misleading and time wasting for anyone reading it when it is used in this way.
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Post by icarus on Dec 5, 2012 13:15:17 GMT
Like!
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Post by sometime on Dec 5, 2012 16:44:12 GMT
Agree completely Sarahp
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Post by viking on Dec 5, 2012 17:07:08 GMT
Also agree.
Rather a misnomer.
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Post by catkin on Dec 5, 2012 17:40:20 GMT
Yes, I agree too. I know what they are meaning when describing a coloured native type, rather than traditional, but without the 'coloured' bit, I would assume one of our native breeds.
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Post by honeypot on Dec 6, 2012 0:42:51 GMT
I am going to be a bit of a wind up merchant but there is traditionally a lot of colour in our native breeds. The dartmoors, highlands, fells and dales have been trying to breed out the white sock, or blaze which can not be wiped out as its so far back in the history of the breeds. The welsh have the sabino gene, which is also not new which produces distinctly coloured ponies which the WPCS do want although they are pure bred. www.saddlesoap.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=62979.0 Look at shrek on page 1 www.saddlesoap.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=62979.15 Now that is coloured.
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sarahp
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Post by sarahp on Dec 6, 2012 7:45:24 GMT
I don't really see how this is relevant? If you are looking for a native pony able to registered with CHAPS you'd still have to explain that.
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Post by NeverSayNever on Dec 6, 2012 10:37:47 GMT
I was under the impression they are 'natives' I don't really get what can be too bad about it if that is what they are known as.
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Post by viking on Dec 6, 2012 11:35:13 GMT
I was under the impression they are 'natives' I don't really get what can be too bad about it if that is what they are known as. I am afraid they are not a recognised British native breed, and are only 'native' in as much as they happen to live here. The fact that they might vaguely look like something, is in my opinion neither here nor there, they have no ancient recorded, documented pedigree.
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Tywood
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Post by Tywood on Dec 6, 2012 11:59:38 GMT
The wording 'native' when used for a coloured is purely to describe the 'type' it is not a breed and as such should be described as 'coloured Native type', it is used when a coloured has the breed traits of a purebred native but does not necessarily have any registered blood (ie welsh PB) although alot of them may have descended from purebreds, it is also used to distinguish from the Traditional gypsy cob which in fact now is a recognized breed. BUT I agree with sarahp that it is very misleading and annoying when they are advertised and 'titled' wrongly.
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Post by sarahp on Dec 6, 2012 12:06:48 GMT
And fair enough used like that tywood, why not, it's just when just the one word is used that it's misleading.
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