magrat2002
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Post by magrat2002 on Aug 20, 2010 21:02:51 GMT
Have just been on the HOYS website to book some tickets and noticed that the schedule was online...so downloaded to have a nosey....not joined those that have qualified!!! LOL There is a statement on the schedule regarding flu vaccine requirements which states: All horses and ponies must have a document that shows the identification of the horse or pony on the same sheet of paper or in the same document as a vaccination section endorsed by a veterinarian, stating that it has received two injections for primary vaccination against equine influenza, given no less than 21 days and no more than 92 days apart. In addition, a booster injection must be recorded as having been given within each succeeding 12 (twelve) months, subsequent to the second injection of the primary vaccination. None of these injections must have been given within the preceding 7 (seven) days including the day of the competition or of entry into the competition stables.Does this mean that if your horse/pony has had any lapses in its annual flu vaccine and you have had to start the regime again, that it is unable to compete?? It seems to say that the booster injection has had to follow as well?? Or am I just reading it completely wrong??
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bekky
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Post by bekky on Aug 20, 2010 21:26:14 GMT
I think you are right in that you have to have flu up to date, and if it does lapse then you have to start again. It is the same for Riding Club championships, I know they can be very strict there and you will be turned around at the gate. They have to be very strict mainly because of the amount of horses there and the fact they have the international showjumpers as well maybe? And I think it does mean you will not be able to compete if they are not right, you would not be allowed to stable either, or probably take the horse off the horsebox! Please correct me if I am wrong, just know that when we went with pony club that everyone was checked months in advance.
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mac
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Post by mac on Aug 20, 2010 22:21:33 GMT
Yes, absolutely. If you have missed an annual by even 1 day you have to go back to the beginning. They check it really carefully but TBH I don't know if they really send a pony home if the vaccinations are not in order. Has anyone ever heard of that?
Anyway, you still have more than 28 days so there is time to get the primary and first boost done before HOYS.
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Post by Guestless on Aug 20, 2010 22:36:10 GMT
In addition, a booster injection must be recorded as having been given within each succeeding 12 (twelve) months, subsequent to the second injection of the primary vaccination. None of these injections must have been given within the preceding 7 (seven) days including the day of the competition or of entry into the competition stables.Does this mean that if your horse/pony has had any lapses in its annual flu vaccine and you have had to start the regime again, that it is unable to compete?? It seems to say that the booster injection has had to follow as well?? Or am I just reading it completely wrong?? It just says to me that the first two must have been administered appropriately and a booster also administered WHERE RELEVANT. So probably not able to compete with just the first jab, but okay as long as at least 2 have been done timeously.
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gilly
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Post by gilly on Aug 21, 2010 6:12:33 GMT
yes it happend to os last year, we just got in by having two done very quickly
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Post by thimble on Aug 21, 2010 6:15:20 GMT
If you if miss any jabs, even wrong by one day, you have to start the course again. I have been there !! To attend HOYS you will have had to had the first two jabs at least and the second jab must be given at least a week before HOYS. They will NOT let you enter HOYS showground if the jab record is not correct. Also beware if you have a old pony with a long record of jabs. Make sure his current passport has on record the inital course of jabs recorded not just the list of the yearly boosters. Know a friend who had problems with this at HOYS. Please check carefully as would be heart breaking to get to HOYS and not be able to compete.
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Post by Team Fenton on Aug 21, 2010 15:12:52 GMT
I qualified for the Super League at the British Open which was at the NEC, and when questioned about the jabs i was told that i had to have the first two done in the correct space of time apart and it had to be done at least 7 days before the show to be able to compete. I had only had the first jab done, and even if the vet jabbed the pony the seven day rule took affect. I did not go to the Open and also found out from people that went that not one pony was checked!!!! . I was very angry about this as i had missed out on a once in a lifetime opportunity to ride there.
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Post by arrogorn on Aug 21, 2010 15:19:53 GMT
Oh god, im off to check now. I just had her yearly booster done last week, Im so paranoid that something is going to trip us up before we get there.
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Post by jinja on Aug 21, 2010 15:30:31 GMT
Definately will NOT let you in a few years ago 1 of mine had a sheet missing from his primary course (old battered passport)and they were sending me home. No matter what you say or do they will NOT give in someone had to fax the missing sheet from home. The pony was eight years old been to HOYS for 4 years on the trot the primary course was done as a yearling so it doesnt matter how far back i it is if your documents are not 100% correct you are going home. Every year now I am a jibbering wreck and check my documents so many times the night before we go and then again on the journey, I am so paranoid now.
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Post by elliebee on Aug 21, 2010 18:36:23 GMT
Thankfully I got my yearly booster done this week. I read it that as long as you have 2 jabs done you are fine. Good luck all those competing xxx
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Post by horsedeal on Aug 21, 2010 20:14:54 GMT
i also thought that you had to have a injection six months after the second primary injection and then the booster 12 months after that
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Post by horsedeal on Aug 21, 2010 20:16:23 GMT
i also thought that you had to have a injection six months after the second primary injection and then the booster 12 months after that
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Post by hatman on Aug 21, 2010 21:26:43 GMT
Yes you do but all has to be within the time limits. My pony needed his booster in jan i booked the vet to come out the day before he was due. It then snowed and the vet could not get up the hill to the farm so i got the YO son to go and pick him up with the tractor was in a panic that he would not get done and i would have to start over again very expencive. Later that day my daughter had a asthma attack and we had to use the tractor again to get the amulance men to the house they sat in the digger bucket!!! Was glad to see the back of the snow!! Sorry slightly of subject.
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Post by pencaedu on Aug 21, 2010 21:44:38 GMT
Yes - and those are the time limits set by the Jockey Club - the vaccine manufacturers admit that they don't need to be smack on 12 months - it would make no difference to effectiveness if 13 months had elapsed - I suppose they are difficult enough to check as it is, without giving leeway on the annual jab.
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Post by jacksprat on Jan 20, 2013 8:41:19 GMT
there were some sent home this from HOYS this year/time because of incorrect vaccinations
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Post by chalky284 on Jan 20, 2013 8:49:37 GMT
What would happen if you had a duplicate passport without the whole years and years of vaccination stamps??? But you knew the pony was totally up to date???
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Post by vgs on Jan 20, 2013 9:34:23 GMT
You don't need years and years the vet will just look at the last two and check they are not lapsed.
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Post by chalky284 on Jan 20, 2013 9:38:46 GMT
As I do contest HOYS/RIHS quals and have stupidly mislaid the passport, would I just be able to get my vey to stamp tbe ones he has done and that will be ok??? I'm sure it's in my house but can I find it !!!!!? No!!!
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Post by vgs on Jan 20, 2013 10:15:59 GMT
If the vet has a record of the actual vaccination given they may stamp it on a separate vaccination card for you, I'm not sure if they would be happy to backdate this. You may end up having to start the vaccinations again. You don't need the vaccination until you have qualified and have time to fit the 1st 2 in before HOYS anyway.
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Post by vgs on Jan 20, 2013 12:05:04 GMT
I've never had vaccinations checked at RIHS but always ensure they are injected anyway.
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