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Post by angelena on Feb 17, 2013 21:31:06 GMT
I have just slowly started bringing Daisy ( rising 4) back into work. She has been a bit full of herself and bored so think the time is right.
So started her off lunging the first session took me 10 mins to calm her down. She was rearing, bucking and cantering around like a loon. Eventually she calmed down and worked long/low.
She can go really nicely but she has started pulling me arms out of my sockets. How can I get her to relax and work well? Don't want to use training aids as that gives a false outline and she is almost 4 so still finding her balance. Although she balances really well on both reins. Any tips welcome thanks.
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Post by BettyBo on Feb 17, 2013 21:38:46 GMT
I have one like that too so all tips greatly received xx
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Post by GinaGeo on Feb 17, 2013 21:55:33 GMT
I'm not a training aid person, but on the lunge I would use something. Even if it was just a well fitted (according to the horse's level of training) Side reins. Or even a pair of draw reins fitted like a kavalkade ho (over back, between front legs and then clip to the bit). Just to stop the "loon" which is of no use to anyone. Obviously don't overtighten anything. It is quite possible to lunge without anything, but I prefer to give them something to work into as they would work into your hand under saddle. You could always lunge with two lines if you really don't want use any training aids - that would give you more control as well.
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Post by angelena on Feb 18, 2013 18:07:13 GMT
Thanks for tip. I lunged her in side reins tonight and she went lovely. Long & low with no pulling. It was nice to feel her relaxed and enjoying her work. Am so pleased with her tonight
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Post by pipandwill on Feb 18, 2013 19:02:00 GMT
Side reins or a head peice thing to get them working low. Also we've found if you use a roller it works wonders to put the lunge through the bit and back to the roller, so it keeps them on the correct bend.
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Post by angelena on Feb 18, 2013 19:11:58 GMT
Will it be ok to lunge in a bit? I am light handed never rough. Think it would depend on the handler?
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Post by GinaGeo on Feb 18, 2013 19:31:02 GMT
I always lunge off a cavesson, but would have side reins fitted to the bit if that's what you mean
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Post by Jessica on Feb 18, 2013 19:46:00 GMT
If I lunge in a bit I tend to thread it through the nearest bit loop, over their head and attach to the other side so you aren't ever pulling directly on just one side of the bit
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Post by angelena on Feb 19, 2013 9:05:52 GMT
Thanks. Will see how she continues to go. I did a bit of lunging last year and she used to go well. I just think it could be just recapping her memory etc. Want to get on her soon and practice for a few ridden classes. The fun begins eeek can't wait!!
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Post by sarahp on Feb 19, 2013 9:44:28 GMT
If they went off on one like that I used to "shut myself down" and just go completely neutral, ignore it and let them get it out of their system, praising only as they calmed down. I always felt struggling to get them under control when in that mood did more harm than good.
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Post by angelena on Feb 19, 2013 15:20:43 GMT
If they went off on one like that I used to "shut myself down" and just go completely neutral, ignore it and let them get it out of their system, praising only as they calmed down. I always felt struggling to get them under control when in that mood did more harm than good. I do exactly same no point in getting mad back and making the situation 10 times worse
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Post by catkin on Feb 24, 2013 10:06:40 GMT
Lots of good advice here. Other things to consider:
1. long rein first (with roller and side reins onto bit) plus the two long reins. Will get the animal going forward and responsive. Teach the basic voice commands at this stage.
2. gradually get them further away from you and onto a circle with the two reins
You should have much better control.
I have never used a Pessoa, but I am sure that correctly fitted they probably offer a great deal of control.
This stage is vital. If you cannot get the control and obedience you need here, then this doesn't bode well for the ridden work. However, I have broken some with no lunging at all (when I was young and brave). They were all fine, but may well also have been good to lunge.
Good luck
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Post by angelena on Feb 26, 2013 21:36:14 GMT
Thanks catkin will give that try but she has been doing brill since the post .
To to clear up she is already backed and ridden away last year, she had done a bit of everything including driving at a young age by the gypsies. She was rescued from the gypsies and broken in to ride.
I have given her time out to grow/mature. She has grown and filled out lots and I now find her stronger than before. She is very willing to learn and a real gem to handle on the ground. I could probably just stick tack back on her and get on and she wouldn't be bothered but I want to do this the correct way.
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