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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 11:14:10 GMT
Been a job on my list now for a long while but now we have a foaly due ive just got round to registering my prefix.
Kind of makes it all a bit real and exciting now.
Its with the WPCS for now and will sort with the DPS next year.
Got the babies name for a boy or girl but not revealing till its on the ground and healthy.
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Post by Guestless on Feb 22, 2013 11:54:27 GMT
It is a nice moment when you get the certificate back confirming your prefix.  |
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Post by pencaedu on Feb 22, 2013 12:02:29 GMT
Had mine a couple of weeks ago!
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Post by Deleted on Feb 22, 2013 12:08:24 GMT
Sorry should have said what it is MILLWILLOW |
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 26, 2013 7:34:15 GMT
OK, this is going to sound really dumb but not had a foal before - could someone please explain? Is it something everyone does or just if you're say breeding and want to use the same first name ie... VICTORIAS WISH, VICTORIAS SECRET? x
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Post by pencaedu on Feb 26, 2013 7:59:46 GMT
In theory, you could still use the same first name even if you didn't register the prefix, but it only cost us £70 through WP&CS to register it - you have to pay more to extend it to other societies. If you go the route of not registering the prefix, it may be a good idea to check that what you want to use as the 'first' name isn't already in use as a prefix, to avoid confusion. You can do that online.
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Post by sarahp on Feb 26, 2013 9:02:00 GMT
A prefix is really equivalent to your surname, and is used for all horses and ponies you breed. Once registered it is exclusive to you and no-one else can use it, which wouldn't be the same if you don't register it, and in that case you wouldn't be allowed to register ponies using it if it was already someone's registered prefix, if all that makes sense.
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 26, 2013 12:09:32 GMT
But if Im only ever having one foal and dont want a prefix I can still call it what I like? Or not? x
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Post by sarahp on Feb 26, 2013 17:14:31 GMT
As long as you aren't using anything that appears like a prefix that is already registered.
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Post by Wiltshire Man on Feb 26, 2013 17:57:36 GMT
My prefix is Daukester which it's out of my full name- Dau is short for Davies and Kester is short for Christopher
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2013 20:00:20 GMT
If you look on the central prefix register victoria25 you can see all the prefixes.
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 27, 2013 10:50:10 GMT
OK just went onto the website and says no results for my intended name … so Im OK to just use it?
I was thinking of ‘xxx(name) Ali’– my mare is called Sophia Ali … can I do that? x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 10:57:07 GMT
its a prefix so needs to go infront of the name, sorry if ive got this wrong, but are you wanting ali? so for example say you had a foal and wanted to call it buttons, it would be Ali Buttons. x |
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Post by sarahp on Feb 27, 2013 11:25:06 GMT
But she doesn't want a registered prefix, so I should have thought OK at the end as part of the name? I look forward to hearing about the first Millwillow foal loulabelle!
Victoria, you were originally talking about something in front and not afterwards, which is a different thing altogether. I think you'd have to talk to whoever you will be registering the foal with.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2013 12:23:40 GMT
Thanks Sarah not long now I don't think, maybe in the next couple of weeks fingers crossed it all goes ok |
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Post by Guestless on Feb 27, 2013 15:30:54 GMT
It would depend if there is a horse already registered with the name you choose, eg I bought a coloured weanling a few years ago and had to apply for her passport myself (it was at the time they were just being introduced). I chose a name and put it on the registration details for CHAPS but got a call to say she would be called  the XIX because 18 people had already used that name. If I had bred the pony, then I could have used my prefix in front of my chosen name and it would have become unique. If you are registered with a breed society though, they all tend to have their own rules over and above the Central Prefix Register so it is likely worth asking the relevant society secretary for advice before filling in registration papers. I hope that makes sense, but I'm just out of a LONG meeting at work so I could be rambling. Feel free to ask if something needs more explanation. |
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 28, 2013 8:58:33 GMT
Oh lord, Im getting confused …
I want to call my horse Tamanni Ali.
My mare is called Sophia Ali (pure bred arab) and the stallion is called Wolkenderry (Hanovarian)so obviously a cross breed.
I’m assuming I’ll get the foal registered as a part bred Hanovarian or part bred arab then get my passport cross stamped (that correct?).
The name Tamanni means “Wish” in Arabic (Wish is the stable name of Wolkenderry) and the Arabic is due to her being an arab. The Ali was just to keep in with my mare’s name.
More than likely I won’t be breeding another foal from the mare but there is a slight (and I mean slight) possibility of having a pure bred foal in future (shes straight Egyptian).
I cant find anything on that prefix website for the name Tamanni - do I contact the two above societies still?
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 28, 2013 9:21:32 GMT
Sorry, should have said the stallion is registered with the Anglo European Studbook x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 9:31:30 GMT
If you want to pay to register it as a prefix yes but give which ever society a call before hand to see what there policy I regarding prefixes as they are all different. You can with some societies get away with picking your chosen prefix once before having to register it but then someone might copy it and register it. Does that make sense. X
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Post by Guestless on Feb 28, 2013 10:13:46 GMT
I cant find anything on that prefix website for the name Tamanni - do I contact the two above societies still? xx I would, unless you don't mind roman numerals being added to the name if it is already in use. The name I used for my coloured was Pollyanna (which I admit is likely to be more popular than your Tamanni, lol!) and if you do a search on that on CPR, it says there is nothing with that name.....but that means there is no-one with that name registered as a prefix. With CHAPS, there were already several Pollyanna's so my girl would have been Pollyanna XIX (or something like that) and I didn't want the roman numerals so I changed it to Pollyanna Pastime and that was approved. Your chosen name may be unusual enough not to have any roman numerals, I'm just flagging it up as a possibility.  |
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 28, 2013 10:48:29 GMT
Brilliants thank you ...
Which society would you register it under if you were me? x
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2013 10:57:27 GMT
Personally I'd go for Arab society then you can do all the PBA classes etc. I think you might be limited with Hanoverian. I may be very wrong. If your wanting to a show see what classes are about, you will probably get a nice riding horse or hack as dont know how heavy the stallion is. X
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Post by Guestless on Feb 28, 2013 11:19:11 GMT
Personally I'd go for Arab society then you can do all the PBA classes etc. I think you might be limited with Hanoverian. I may be very wrong. If your wanting to a show see what classes are about, you will probably get a nice riding horse or hack as dont know how heavy the stallion is. X Yep, think I would do that too. |
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 28, 2013 12:06:15 GMT
Thanks guys ... Ive emailed the AHS ;0)
Idea is for long term future of baby - riding horse/hack, dressage (perhaps) and hopefully something that I can jump with! Eek
Ive got my arab who's a general big pet, happy hacker - had from being 3
TB who Im just reschooling at the moment who will be doing ex racehorse classes, hack, WH, etc
Then baby will hopefully be my cross country/show jumper/WH
Only to complete for fun ... x
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Post by victoria25 on Feb 28, 2013 12:06:59 GMT
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Post by iluvmypony on Mar 6, 2013 22:17:12 GMT
sorry to hijack your thread loulabelle, victoria25 is your mare already in foal to wolkenderry? i would be interested in seeing some of his offspring as i was thinking of using my hanoverian x arab mare with him in the future, thanks x
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the XIX because 18 people had already used that name.
