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Post by Vandam on Dec 3, 2008 10:27:20 GMT
You know what is really getting on my goat recently, folks who seem to think everything they have is perfect and publically criticise other peoples horses and ponies for faults that are shared by there own animals. Why do people have to be so darn right nasty, what does it achieve? Is it that they themselves are insecure and it makes them feel better to diss and upset others? I would like to remind these people that the perfect specimen of a horse has yet to be born and they all have their faults. Now where can I get a pair of those rose tinted spectacles???
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Post by dun4u on Dec 3, 2008 11:12:11 GMT
Yes, vandam, I do agree. I've stood at the ringside on many an occasion and overheard people crititicising certain ponies in the ring only to find that theirs has more conformation faults than all the others put together. There are many people who really genuinely believe that their ponies are perfect and I don't put it down to rose-tinted glasses - I put it down to just plain ignorance. They wouldn't know a sickle hock from a eweneck if it jumped out and bit them. Be content in the fact that you do know a good pony when you see one and hope that the Judge does too. BTW why have you posted as a guest? If you have the strength of your convictions then be open about it. This could be a very interesting debate.
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Post by Vandam on Dec 3, 2008 11:38:49 GMT
I was also very disapointed in a well known producer earlier this season, Loudly making fun of someone in the ring who was an obvious novice giving it a go. The sad thing is the Novice would obviously aspire to be just like the well known producer, and how would said novice feel knowing the producer was mocking them, these current novices are the future of our sport and should be encouraged not mocked. We should respect each other and each others feelings.
I heard a very good saying this morning that a sharp tongue can cut your own throat!!...... Maybe some of these people who stand at the ringside hurting the feelings of others should take stock, wonder why they do not have many true friends and maybe make a new years resolution to be a better and kinder person.
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Post by Milliesmum on Dec 3, 2008 11:43:09 GMT
You are so right vandam, I am often told by my hubby that I'm too soft and get taken for a mug, but I would rather that than know that I could have helped somone but chose to let them struggle instead.
The people you mention would do well to remember, those people you tread on on your way up the ladder, you are likely to meet again on the way back down!
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Post by thecremellosociety on Dec 3, 2008 12:58:12 GMT
The way i see it is that if people have nothing better to do than be nasty spiteful and bit*h and talk about others they are obviously not taking the time and attention over their own and have nothing better to do in their small lives, Admittldy one mans meat is another mans poison, and some people and most importantly judges will like something others dont, But welcome the the bit*hy back stabby world of showing, why i can enjoy a little laugh and a giggle which is not malicious in anyway as much as the next person, you do hear lots of horrid spiteful people out there !!
As i was bullied lots at school i try and pride myself on being as nice to all and treat everyone fairly no matter what, treat people as you would like to be treated yourself and the world and showing world would be a happier place.
If you cant say anything nice keep it to yourself or in private !!!
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Post by halfpass on Dec 3, 2008 15:17:01 GMT
I don't need the the rose colored specs I know my horses are not perfect, but I'm a veritable Mary Poppins perfect in every way
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Post by skint on Dec 11, 2008 12:49:50 GMT
Halfpass - We knew that already
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Post by diadem on Dec 11, 2008 13:04:32 GMT
I under no illusion that our lot are perfect, nowt is
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Post by thecremellosociety on Dec 11, 2008 14:35:25 GMT
But as long as they perfect in your eyes and you are happy wth them thats all that matters
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Post by diadem on Dec 11, 2008 16:00:22 GMT
Aye, i agree.....i wouldnt have them any other way
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Post by gtr121 on Dec 12, 2008 23:10:23 GMT
My late father in law had a saying which went something like this. There is only one good horse and everyone owns it!
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Post by wendbarry1 on Dec 14, 2008 0:31:48 GMT
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Post by dawnie on Dec 14, 2008 2:42:54 GMT
I do think those who find fault in all the others lack a lot of confidence in what they have stood in the stable. I do like to hear comments about my horses ... good and bad ... as its all a learning curve and you never stop learning, but some people can have a very rude off hand way of putting their thoughts across. To rip a novice is down right cruel, I was a totally novice and if it wasn't for the help others I would have learnt nothing.
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Post by lucynlizzysmum on Dec 14, 2008 7:45:39 GMT
I do think those who find fault in all the others lack a lot of confidence in what they have stood in the stable. I do like to hear comments about my horses ... good and bad ... as its all a learning curve and you never stop learning, but some people can have a very rude off hand way of putting their thoughts across. To rip a novice is down right cruel, I was a totally novice and if it wasn't for the help others I would have learnt nothing. Hear hear Dawnie I don't need rose coloured specs coz like Wendbarry I too always take home the best Surely we do this for fun, if there's one thing that having ponies has taught me, it's that we can always learn more!
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Post by dawnie on Dec 14, 2008 16:00:00 GMT
LOL slightly off subject, but it makes me giggle when "non horsey" friends ask me why I still need lessons if I can ride...has anyone else got bemused friends like that??? My horses are perfect in my little world ... not because they are world beaters of any kind, they have their lumps, bumps quirks and faults but I think I know them and feel safe with them. I guess loving them to bits helps I can look at loads of horses at shows and think hmmm would take that home, but then a friend once said "yes thats okay but which one would you take home and leave yours here for?" That changed my thoughts!!!!
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Post by morwenstowstud on Dec 15, 2008 1:21:28 GMT
I think I'm probably the opposite when it comes to my own ponies. I'm far from 'stable blind'. I see all their faults, and probably faults they don't really have. Doesn't stop me loving them or having fun with them. Yes I have stood at the ring side and wondered why a pony that has dished/got cow hocks has won when there have been lovely straight ponies in the class. Yes I've discussed with my daughter, but never loudly or offensively. She's still learning so we do discuss merits/faults of ponies. Having said that I've also had mine placed up in classes/won classes and even taken champions/reserves wondered why because in my eyes I'd have given it to such and such pony. I didn't know the judges so it wasn't face judging. Just their choice on the day. The only time I do find it ridiculous is if a pony has very obvious faults and is placed higher than ponies who don't. One thing I have always thought though is that when you show ponies, you put yourself in the public eye and therefore you put yourself in line for criticism. Some people will moan just because they can. Some because their own little poppet has been placed down the line. Some are making genuine observations. I went to one show a few years back with two babies who went in a mixed breed, mixed age youngstock class. Mine were placed above hers and I clearly heard her ripping strips off the judge asking how on earth they could be placed above hers. It gave us a laugh though because while she was busy ripping strips off the judge she missed her next class, and wasn't best pleased to turn up at the ring as prizes were being given out, to see us standing second. She then stormed to the secretarys tent to give them merry hell and was told tough
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