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Post by mcw on Apr 20, 2013 9:03:32 GMT
HOME PRODUCED CLASSES – These classes are open to horses and ponies that have been stabled at home (without any paid assistance) or kept at livery on a DIY basis since 1st January 2013. Horses/ponies must not have been shown or trained by a professional Producer or kept at full livery at any time during this period (except for service in the case of Brood Mares). To be owned/kept, produced, ridden/handled by a person who does not derive their main income from working with horses/ponies. It is anticipated that exhibitors will enter in the true spirit of this competition. My pony has been stabled at home all his life, and I have only recently started having riding lessons however, my teacher has ridden him during some of these lessons. Would I or would I not be classed as home produced? I am generally curious about this rule and don't enter HP classes as I do believe that there are grey area's. 
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Post by rightrein92 on Apr 20, 2013 11:04:34 GMT
I'd say as long as he isant being schooled on a regular basis nor are you paying her to school him you would be eligible most people have lessons I should think ? X
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Post by forester on Apr 20, 2013 11:30:08 GMT
HP is a very grey area, i know of someone who has a pony in her 24/7 rides and competes him but as she hasnt taken him in the "show ring" she is still eligible for HP on her own? how i ask is the question as she is paid to ride and look after him and competes him in dressage sj xc etc, now to me she shouldnt be aloud to do HP as she is paid
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Post by Deleted on Apr 26, 2013 19:53:53 GMT
HOME PRODUCED CLASSES – These classes are open to horses and ponies that have been stabled at home (without any paid assistance) or kept at livery on a DIY basis since 1st January 2013. Horses/ponies must not have been shown or trained by a professional Producer or kept at full livery at any time during this period (except for service in the case of Brood Mares). To be owned/kept, produced, ridden/handled by a person who does not derive their main income from working with horses/ponies. It is anticipated that exhibitors will enter in the true spirit of this competition. quote] A bit of clarification: Stabled at home without any paid assistance.....- refers to paying someone to manage/take care of the horse on a regular basis Horses/ponies must not have been trained.....- regular riding lessons are training the rider not the horse Professional producer......- ie) someone who derives an income from producing horses for the show ring, so dressage riders/freelance grooms/showjumping instructors riding/grooming on a regular basis do not count as professional producers. Finally, To be owned/kept, produced, ridden/handled by a person who does not derive their main income from working with horses/ponies- is referring to actually in the class, not at home also- edited just to add- Just because someone gets paid to work with horses doesn't mean they're not eligible. It has to be their main income |
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Post by fellephant on Jun 10, 2013 16:38:44 GMT
Hi, A quick question to add to this thread. I was considering entering a home produced class with my pony at Equifest. He is kept on a livery yard on DIY livery. However, I am planning on sending him to stay at my instructors yard for a week in July when I go away with work - instructor is a dressage trainer and does not show. Would we still be eligible for a home produced class? Thanks |
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Post by oliver2 on Jun 10, 2013 17:50:18 GMT
I would say you were not eligible for HP if your pony is being kept on a Professionals yard and ridden by them. It is a grey area and would probably avoid the HP.
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Post by fellephant on Jun 11, 2013 10:51:58 GMT
I would say you were not eligible for HP if your pony is being kept on a Professionals yard and ridden by them. It is a grey area and would probably avoid the HP. He wont be being shown from the yard, he's just going because I have to go on a course for work in early July. Pesky work! It's a shame as he really is truly home produced; first horse, DIY livery, first horse I've ever broken in and it's taken us 3 years to get out showing due to my ineptness! We definitely aren't a threat to anyone and we're usually at shows on our own! Never mind, will try and time work trips better next year (like over winter so he can just ave time off!) :0 |
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Post by justjay on Jun 11, 2013 11:19:15 GMT
TBH - it seems to me if you can get away with it then do it. I have seen so many people who - in their own words "train ponies for the show ring" and get paid for it and still do it.
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