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Post by sweetpea on Dec 10, 2008 20:02:24 GMT
LOOKING TO FEED MY 2Y/O ON ROLLED BARLEY.IM FEEDING HER ALFA OIL AND CONDTIONING CUBES AND SHES LOOKING GOOD.WHY DO USE IT??WHAT S IT GOOD FOR??  |
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Post by farmer on Dec 10, 2008 20:05:44 GMT
Fattening bullocks  |
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Post by sarahp on Dec 11, 2008 7:41:49 GMT
I agree! Horses do not digest starch found in cereals very well - especially if just rolled and not cooked/micronised - and you run the risk of behavioural and laminitis problems. The equine digestive system is very very different from a ruminant like cows and sheep and they have evolved to trickle feed roughage, not infrequent meals of cereal.
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Post by hormonal on Dec 11, 2008 8:35:00 GMT
If she is looking good why do you want to change her feed?
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Post by sweetpea on Dec 11, 2008 9:35:59 GMT
MORE WEIGHT
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Post by GroganShowTeam on Dec 11, 2008 9:39:39 GMT
i put mine on NO 1 i think its the best for weight gain and condition but you will have to pull her off the condition cubes.
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Post by jeremy on Dec 11, 2008 9:46:21 GMT
i have mine on thurds, topspec cool and condition and sugar beet, and you will not beleieve the turn around in 4 weeks, and hes not a big eatter, he eats all his feed but eats less hayledge than most small ponies and is about 17.2. si it can only be the feed which is helping him gain weight.
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Post by thecremellosociety on Dec 11, 2008 14:28:22 GMT
do youreally need more weight on them If looking good and healthy why would you want them fat Think of their heart and joints !!! God i know belive me my knees etc ache and i can choose what i eat ( masdonalds and chinese to often !!) |
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Post by klbeebs on Dec 11, 2008 14:33:54 GMT
Jeremey - what is thurds?
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Post by thecremellosociety on Dec 11, 2008 17:02:44 GMT
i think its a product from something that is made, sort of a left over products when something has been extracted possibly oil but not sure.
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Post by sarahp on Dec 11, 2008 17:14:12 GMT
Thirds? I think it's a wheat by-product.
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Post by hormonal on Dec 11, 2008 18:16:27 GMT
If your two year old is already looking good, please, please do not try and put any more weight on her. It will really do her no good at all - you risk OCD, epiphysitis, laminitis, etc. Is it worth risking her health for the sake of rosettes?
Barley can be a useful feed for genuine poor doers, but even then is better fed either boiled or micronised to improve the digestibility. I would not feed it to a youngster who is already 'looking good' to pile more weight on it.
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Post by sweetpea on Dec 11, 2008 18:52:08 GMT
your getting it wrong.shes not looking fat.and NO im not wanting to push her into looking to fat to show.im not stupid.i was just asking opinion.im worried shes not up to weight.shes properly going through that growing stage where she doesnt look to me up to weight.im not going to do anything trastic.thanks for comments though
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Post by rl on Dec 11, 2008 22:35:14 GMT
A good dollop of common vegetable oil in feed is fattening, and doesn't do harm as not cereal. This is what my vet recommended, and I have found it to be true. And it helps the joints and the coat condition!
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Post by bigmama on Dec 12, 2008 0:21:20 GMT
Jeremey - what is thurds? Thirds is a by-product of wheat |
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Post by farmer on Dec 12, 2008 9:39:41 GMT
Thirds may also be sold as wheatings or middlings, and are a by product of wheat milling.
These by-products are high in digestible fibre and have energy values similar to corn, and are high in phosphorous.
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Post by sarahp on Dec 12, 2008 10:08:16 GMT
If high in phosphorus it could upset the correct calcium:phosphorus ratio required for good bone growth.
I'm a great believer in oil too ri, horses digest it really well. But not in cereals, especially unprocessed!
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Post by welsha on Dec 12, 2008 18:35:18 GMT
Im another fan of adding oil to the feed. It really makes a difference
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Post by chardonnay on Dec 12, 2008 19:18:20 GMT
I've fed wheat midlings before but the best conditioner I've found is coprameal. It's high in oil and non heating. My entire yard is now on it but I buy it by the pallet and it's not cheap. Some take a while to start eating it but they all go for it in the end. I won't feed any rolled grain but I do feed well crushed oats and they are great. Once again though I find it hard to get them how I like so I buy by the ton from a farmer! |
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Post by Pony-Nutt on Dec 13, 2008 11:14:28 GMT
If you are adamant that you want to feed cereal, I would suggest oats are better.
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Post by Philippa on Dec 14, 2008 18:03:23 GMT
I would use whole barley - boiled obviously - fatness without fitness. Also throw a handful of raw linseed in and boil both together.
Fortunate to have a huge barley boiler here though so don't stink house out.
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Post by shortfatanhairy on Dec 20, 2008 17:01:46 GMT
If high in phosphorus it could upset the correct calcium:phosphorus ratio required for good bone growth. I'm a great believer in oil too ri, horses digest it really well. But not in cereals, especially unprocessed! Does feeding midlings with sugar beet redress this un balance or is limestone etc required?? |
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Post by paininthebutt on Jan 5, 2009 21:03:11 GMT
I agree! Horses do not digest starch found in cereals very well - especially if just rolled and not cooked/micronised - and you run the risk of behavioural and laminitis problems. The equine digestive system is very very different from a ruminant like cows and sheep and they have evolved to trickle feed roughage, not infrequent meals of cereal. So what are processed feeds made from nowadays ? Soya beans, peas, maize, wheat feed; stuff I wouldn't let any horse of mine get near. And of course oils. Processed vegetable oils are perhaps the most unsuitable feeds for horses imaginable. (And for humans too). |
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