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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 16:45:15 GMT
It's really starting to frustrate me seeing what parents are letting their children ride in.
(I will excuse non-horsey parents with young children who know no better, or teenagers that are old enough to make their own choices).
For the 6th time this year I've had a child come to see one of mine for loan- with unsuitable footware. Joddy boots, or rubber/leather long boots IMO are the only suitable footware for YOUNG children. Not wellies, muckers, them woofware neoprene boots, or even dubarrys.
Even when I go to yards I see it.
Not only does it ruin a good saddle and pose a risk if they fall, these soft-type boots offer little ankle support, so are not-helping the youngsters get the correct leg position, but also risking them going over on their ankle in the stirrup.
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Post by Philippa on May 16, 2013 17:24:59 GMT
I cannot abide the woofwear type boots, they are awful. I think a good pair of boots to ride in is essential. Maisie wears johdpur boots, shes 2!!!!!
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Post by nia2311 on May 16, 2013 20:09:36 GMT
Agreed. My son only rides in correct boots. I am also distressed to see the shabby footwear children are allowed to wear for general use also. Things like "fake" Ugg boots - seeing small children walking on the side of the boot, flat ballerina shoes with no instep support etc. They are storing up a whole host of podiatry problems for the future. I pay £40 a pair for my son's school shoes because he takes the widest fit in Clarks (H). No cheap supermarket school shoe is wide enough. Trainers are a nightmare, as are football boots and also joddy boots. Joddy boots are tapered at the toe, and he has a "square" foot. His little toe gets squashed at the side in many styles of riding boot, so we have to shop around. I wish parents would be more discerning about ALL footwear they allow their kids to wear, as so many problems are formed from poorly fitting, non supportive shoes.
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Post by Deleted on May 16, 2013 20:29:37 GMT
Agreed. My son only rides in correct boots. I am also distressed to see the shabby footwear children are allowed to wear for general use also. Things like "fake" Ugg boots - seeing small children walking on the side of the boot, flat ballerina shoes with no instep support etc. They are storing up a whole host of podiatry problems for the future. I pay £40 a pair for my son's school shoes because he takes the widest fit in Clarks (H). No cheap supermarket school shoe is wide enough. Trainers are a nightmare, as are football boots and also joddy boots. Joddy boots are tapered at the toe, and he has a "square" foot. His little toe gets squashed at the side in many styles of riding boot, so we have to shop around. I wish parents would be more discerning about ALL footwear they allow their kids to wear, as so many problems are formed from poorly fitting, non supportive shoes. Glad to know there are still parents around like you! Both me and my sister had our feet measured at Clarkes when we were younger. It knocks me sick seeing 4 year old children dragging their feet around in "FUGG" boots. You're right- but not only sets them up with podiatry issues- also problems with their balance/posture/gait. |
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Post by Louise Dixon on May 16, 2013 20:42:24 GMT
Agreed. My son only rides in correct boots. I am also distressed to see the shabby footwear children are allowed to wear for general use also. Things like "fake" Ugg boots - seeing small children walking on the side of the boot, flat ballerina shoes with no instep support etc. They are storing up a whole host of podiatry problems for the future. I pay £40 a pair for my son's school shoes because he takes the widest fit in Clarks (H). No cheap supermarket school shoe is wide enough. Trainers are a nightmare, as are football boots and also joddy boots. Joddy boots are tapered at the toe, and he has a "square" foot. His little toe gets squashed at the side in many styles of riding boot, so we have to shop around. I wish parents would be more discerning about ALL footwear they allow their kids to wear, as so many problems are formed from poorly fitting, non supportive shoes. Can I ask where you get joddy boots and so on for your son? My son is 2 1/2, he doesn't fit in even the widest fit Clarks or Startrite, we have to get German shoes, luckily there is a really good independent show shop in our local town who can get them. They are always around the £40 mark, and it looks like his little brother is going to be the same. At the moment, he just rides in his shoes, but he doesn't use stirrups yet - but his balance is improving and he is now asking for stirrups, so I need to get him some proper boots, but have no idea where to look. |
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Post by Louise Dixon on May 16, 2013 20:43:14 GMT
Or even 'shoe shop'!
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Post by nia2311 on May 16, 2013 20:45:55 GMT
He's going to a half term football camp later this month - Clarks don't do their footy boots in a H-fitting (nor most of their trainers!) so we literally tried on every single style in Sports Direct before settling on some boots. We then took them to Clarks and the fitter kindly assessed them for us. Its a total nightmare. He will wear Clarks for general wear, school etc for ever. I will buy him the men's sizes when needed. I always had Clarks and even so, I have podiatry problems caused by wonky knees and wear orthotic insoles, so I know the pain podiatry issues can cause. My pet hates apart from Uggs are the ballerina styles for girls. Don't support the instep, are too flat, are not fasten to the foot, so they step out and are narrow and may pinch the toes. Children need properly fitted shoes!
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Post by nia2311 on May 16, 2013 20:49:27 GMT
Louise we found Saxon joddy boots with front laces are the best style. I get them from Robbies mainly. I have no idea if you can get them small enough for a 2 1/2 year old though, as my lad didn't start riding till he was 5. He has also worn Just Togs styles before. Dublin are a no go, nor Harry Hall.....
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Post by nia2311 on May 16, 2013 20:52:11 GMT
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Post by pipandwill on May 16, 2013 21:08:10 GMT
We had someone turn up to try a pony, he was a novice and they knew that, they only turned up with trainers.
So we didnt let them ride him.
Just a nice pair of joddy boots, 99p second hand on ebay...
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Post by norwalk on May 16, 2013 23:23:17 GMT
It's really starting to frustrate me seeing what parents are letting their children ride in. (I will excuse non-horsey parents with young children who know no better, or teenagers that are old enough to make their own choices). For the 6th time this year I've had a child come to see one of mine for loan- with unsuitable footware. Joddy boots, or rubber/leather long boots IMO are the only suitable footware for YOUNG children. Not wellies, muckers, them woofware neoprene boots, or even dubarrys. Even when I go to yards I see it. Not only does it ruin a good saddle and pose a risk if they fall, these soft-type boots offer little ankle support, so are not-helping the youngsters get the correct leg position, but also risking them going over on their ankle in the stirrup. I totally agree! Except - I won't allow long rubber riding boots anywhere near my saddles because they wreck them as much as wellies!!! I don't have a problem with anything leather like dubarry types as I personally find them great to ride in and no less supportive then jod boots. I'm glad it's not just me though, it's really one of my pet hates..... |
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Post by pollycrystal on May 17, 2013 9:22:50 GMT
Try Loveson Grosvenor jod boots, they are wider than usual with a square toe. They are sold by Ride away, and probably lots of other places. Hope this helps.
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Post by AnnieRoseSplash on May 17, 2013 11:17:45 GMT
I won't allow anyone to ride my daughters pony in wellies, long boots, trainers. For their own safety and to stop the saddle getting ruined!
My daughter has always ridden in joddy boots and neoprene chaps, but we have opposite problem with boot sizes though as she is a slim d fitting, we use ariat heritage lace up boots to get a nice snug supportive fit, expensive new (we buy second hand) but well worth it, laces always tucked inside the chaps of course!
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Post by nici on May 17, 2013 12:31:20 GMT
Cerys always rides in either her joddy boots or her long riding boots. Nia, we have the opposite problem with her feet - she has very narrow E fitting shoes and generally has very limited choice of footwear to fit. Her school shoes have always been Clarks, but she does have cheap supermarket shoes for parties / going out - I can only afford one pair of Clarks at a time and her practical Clarks lace ups are not very pretty with a posh frock. However she spends the majority of her time in school shoes or joddy boots, so I don't think her pretty ballerina shoes will hurt her feet for occasional use.
It's actually easier to find shoes that fit now she's into adult sizes - she's coming up to a 4 now. This surprises me, as I would have expected adult shoes to be wider than girls shoes. But they seem to fit her better.
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Post by mara on May 17, 2013 18:56:39 GMT
Mum with son who has large & wide feet here and he also uses orthotics - try new balance for trainers - they do different width fittings depending on style - my 5'7" 12 year old is in size 9 2e's but they go even wider (think 4e) depending on style. You need to look for a wide or slightly higher 'toe box' to allow for good toe room.
They also do an adult size black trail boot in width fittings which are suitable for school use. New balance are also a bit more reasonably priced than Asics, Nike etc - Asics are good for wide forefeet.
For football boots - try Canterbury rugby boots instead (try a boot for 'forward' players & look for them on ebay) - you can get the plastic football studs to swap over the aluminium studs. Avoid Gilbert as they tend to be quite narrow.
Hush puppies can also be good for school shoes once they're a bit older.
I can't stand seeing children in cheap, ill designed & ill fitting shoes - you only get 1 pair of feet & they have to carry you around for a long time & can really make life unbearable if not properly cared for, particularly in early life.
Jodhpur boots - not sure - younger son who rides has slightly easier feet to deal with but I forgot his joddy boots for his lesson the other day & his school shoes don't have a heel as such so we had to scrape around to borrow a pair.
America is far better sorted for people with large or wide feet.
I have narrow feet and was always the kid with ghastly clarks laceups & I still have trouble keeping slip on shoes on if they don't come up high enough - much prefer a pair of walking boots !
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Post by flee on May 17, 2013 21:16:52 GMT
I can recall an incident one summers day when I used to teach at a riding school . A child , who had been riding for 6 months or so , turned up in a skirt and open toed sandals and the mother was outraged when she was told that her daughter could not ride on the lesson as she wasn't suitably attired .
'But she'll get too hot in jodhpurs and boots ' she protested .
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Post by rightrein92 on May 18, 2013 6:33:53 GMT
I am a guilty party that does ride in my dubarrys occasionally :-) but I find they give my ankles enough support , I have tiny size 4;5 feet so still in kids size in most places
Did see a child hacking out the other day in shorts and flip flops on the lead rein !!!! Even if it was just a sit on imagine what could have happened if pony spooked and she came a cropper !!! It's awful x
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Post by GinaGeo on May 18, 2013 15:59:04 GMT
He's going to a half term football camp later this month - Clarks don't do their footy boots in a H-fitting (nor most of their trainers!) so we literally tried on every single style in Sports Direct before settling on some boots. We then took them to Clarks and the fitter kindly assessed them for us. Its a total nightmare. He will wear Clarks for general wear, school etc for ever. I will buy him the men's sizes when needed. I always had Clarks and even so, I have podiatry problems caused by wonky knees and wear orthotic insoles, so I know the pain podiatry issues can cause. My pet hates apart from Uggs are the ballerina styles for girls. Don't support the instep, are too flat, are not fasten to the foot, so they step out and are narrow and may pinch the toes. Children need properly fitted shoes! This. I've always had properly fitted shoes, although I've got really narrow feet, and Clarks were too wide. I too have wonky knees and very little natural instep. Last weekend I went and had myself measured for Orthotics. The difference is huge, the background back ache has gone along with my hips being sore. I've also found that my lower leg is a lot more secure. I've been in agony all work as the incorrectly built muscle has begun to correct itself. I hate to think of the mess I'd be in if my mum hadn't put in the time and expense of getting me fitted with proper shoes. I've never been able to wear ballerina shoes, or Uggs. Always had to have boots/ahoes with a proper sole and good support, for that I'm very grateful. |
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Post by Guestless on May 18, 2013 19:47:04 GMT
I always had Clark's shoes as a child, but must admit I rode in wellies. Didn't have my own pony and my mum wouldn't have been able to afford a pair of jod boots, etc. Not ideal I admit, but didn't do me any harm....I think most people on our yard wore wellies back then so I wasn't on my own. I'd rather see a kid riding in wellies than trainers or not getting to ride at all.
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Post by nia2311 on May 18, 2013 20:07:13 GMT
Clarks shoes are pretty good now - style wise they have "fashionable" item. Boys shoes, fortunately, are pretty much a standard design. In a H fitting, there is usually no choice of style, so my son gets whatever is in stock....
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Post by Louise Dixon on May 18, 2013 20:20:31 GMT
Thank you for the suggestions
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Post by ruftytuftyrider on May 18, 2013 21:08:33 GMT
I am a mum with wide feet who has a daughter with even wider feet. We struggle finding any shoes that fit. Only ever buy daughter Clarks or Startright shoes whichever fit best but she has to have the widest fit and go up at least a size (sometimes 2 sizes) to get ones that are wide enough. Her shoes are much more expensive than mine but totally agree that it is important for children to have properly fitted shoes. Really stuggle with jodpur boots so will be investigating suggestions online.
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Post by mara on May 22, 2013 21:45:26 GMT
Oh and when trying to find shoes to go with orthotics, try removing the insole to the shoe as the orthotic will lift the heel above the heel cup 9 out of 10 times and make the shoe too tight over the bridge or cause the heels to rub/the foot to step out of the shoe - often though you can cut the fitted insole down to fit the orthotic in conjunction with it, or get the full length orthotics.
Hush Puppies come in a variable width these days - you get the choice of 2 insoles to use but sadly, few insoles supplied as standard in any shoe are suitable for rolling inward or low instep type issues.
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Post by mara on May 22, 2013 21:50:57 GMT
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Post by sjw87 on May 22, 2013 22:09:06 GMT
Try Loveson Grosvenor jod boots, they are wider than usual with a square toe. They are sold by Ride away, and probably lots of other places. Hope this helps. Ditto. I have very wide feet which were sadly too wide for even Clarks shoes when I was younger and I have ended up with deformed/bent toes as a result. I always found the loveson joddy boots the widest and with trainers, Nike were the most comfortable. Sent from my C6603 using proboards |
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Post by elvenkeep on May 29, 2013 20:13:28 GMT
I had a pair of Loveson Joddy boots for years as a junior...the square toed ones........love them! Now have my mountain horse paddock boots for every day and my Mountain Horse High Riders long boots, as well as my leather Regent Show boots...which I got as a 21st birthday pressie.
Emma xx
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Post by jojowelshponylover on Oct 1, 2013 7:58:46 GMT
Saw young girl this summer at a show around lorry park riding BARE FEET ! Adults with her laughing and joking about her antics
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Post by moya on Oct 3, 2013 23:15:00 GMT
Can I ask above please? My daughter and son both ride my friends pony. My daughter has long boots Andy son only wellies. My daughter is 5 and she is learning the proper handling of a horse where as my son pretty much just sits there and smiles lol. Does he need boots yet? If so where do I get size 6 ones from )he is only 3.5 yes olds.
Did I get the wrong boots by buying my daughter log boots? I must admit they were cheap off eBay and I alway rode in long boots when I rode hence buying them
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Post by moya on Oct 3, 2013 23:15:15 GMT
Thanks in advance btw
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Post by sarahp on Oct 4, 2013 7:48:25 GMT
I would only let a child ride in wellies with no stirrups - the point being that the soles of wellies can easily stick in the stirrup if the child falls off leading to he/she being dragged. Any footware designed for riding will have suitable safe soles. I don't see riding with no stirrups would be a problem for a 3.5 yo who is presumably on the LR?
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