talking of thieving!!!!!!!!!

[tootell111]

Just a quick message to the kind person who stole our bridle out of our lorry at equifest on saterday was only gone from the lorry 10 minuetes and a nice bridle with a martingale and a nhue shue bit was gone from hanging in the door way in the lorry our daughter had to miss her class so if your reading this I hope you feel good about your self and to anyone else who might know anything about it you should speak up becouse this is theiving
Thanks for ruining our one and only holiday!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[abiandem]

we had our fylde bridle nicked from the heritage champs whilst we were in the vicinity of the lorry, also lost all bandages other bridle and stripping basket after i stupidly left it at the ringside at area 16 and went back 1/2hr later, nothing is safe which is such a shame, as we supposedly do it for the same reasons .

[tootell111]

So agree!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[Philippa]

Feel for you but why oh why don't people lock their lorries. I know you shouldn't have to as we all like to think everyone is like us because we have ponies but the cold hard reality is that there are some really nasty, sick, vindictive people out there who don't give a s**t who they hurt in their quest for ill gotten gains.

[tootell111]

Couldnt have put it better myself!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[bigmama]

Do you lock your car doors when going shopping? The answer is more than likely to be 'Yes' so why would anyone leave their lorry unlocked whilst leaving it unattended at shows?

[pimms'o'clock (Jess)]

Aug 18, 2013 20:31:33 GMT Philippa said:

Feel for you but why oh why don't people lock their lorries. I know you shouldn't have to as we all like to think everyone is like us because we have ponies but the cold hard reality is that there are some really nasty, sick, vindictive people out there who don't give a s**t who they hurt in their quest for ill gotten gains.

Completely agree. We lock our wagon when we're away from it and we have a little safe in the back for valuables whilst we are at champs shows, it was about £20 from b&q and it's drilled to the wall. It's a sad world we live in that things have come to this but such is life! :\

[horses100]

I have had all my tack stolen, 3 saddles 4 birdles and lots more !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! its very very stupid, what sort of people are sooo horrid that they could steal! i personaly think it is awful that we have to live in the same world as them

[horses100]

bridles sorry

[kirtonian]

Disgrace, feel very sorry for you, we had same happen years ago at a show, had I not already done a class Mum would have thought I had left bridle at home. Anyway, we walked down horse lines and spotted it on someones lorry, they said they had no idea how it got there....yeah right. Sadly have to agree with those who said about locking up though, we even lock the back lockers as well as main lorry, even a bridle and a show whip, which could be taken in seconds would be £250 to replace. Sadly these days you just can't leave things and trust people, most are honest, sadly not all though

[bubbles1822]

We are always careful about locking the tack away and not leaving things by the stables(this is annoying having to carry rugs etc backwards and forwards, but I'd rather still have them!)
But I went to nps and ponies uk and people left things all over and nothing seemed to get moved. At ponies uk we left out stripping bag full of sprays and brushes etc by the ring at 8am and no one had touched it when we realised we had left it there at 2pm!

[tootell111]

4 ponies 3 children 1 lorry 1 caravan can't lock everything everytime if they want it they'll get it!!!!!!!!! It was obviously an opportunist!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[maxandpaddy]

So sorry for you.....sad world

[calerux]

Unfortunately not everyone at horse shows is as honest and trustworthy as we'd like to believe. Never leave any belongings tack or personal items unattended, always lock things away whether you're gone for 10 mins or 10 hrs, an opportunist thief doesn't have any concern for you and you would be surprised how many shows have organised criminals who will travel in, watch horseboxes etc being left or bags/purses 'hidden' in vehicles and then be in & out before you know it.

A simple bit of thought and planning will prevent crime and remember to be vigilant for each other. Whilst several ponies & kids may be a distraction and an inconvenience its nothing compared to losing valuable or irreplaceable items. Getting your tack security stamped is also a deterrent then if you are unfortunate to have it stolen you are more likely to be reunited with it, contact your local Police for advice.

I'm sorry you have been a victim of crime and my advice will be like bolting the door after the proverbial horse has gone, but if it stops it happening to you again or others then its been worthwhile. There is always the option of a 'wagon dog' particularly a noisy one to put off a criminal, but you still need to get into the habit of putting your stuff away safely!

[pipandflo]

I'm always more worried they will steal lorry dog so take her with me!

[leeann]

What a shame, the thieving bu@@ers I would chop there hands off if I caught them!

I have to agree with the others take that extra 5-10 mins to lock everything away, I always lock my lorry and tack lockers.

I like to think people are as honest as I am but there is always someone out there looking for that opportunity!

[tootell111]

Thank you to everyone for your advise I truly did believe everyone was as honest as I am at horse shows!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[WH Management Group]

One of our previous Security bulletins, with a particular slant over property at shows

WH Security Monthly Advice Bulletin-Sept 2012
THEFT PRECAUTIONS AT SHOWS – aimed at the individual and competitor, this month’s thread starts off what we hope will be a useful monthly bulletin. We often have petty thefts reported to our offices at events. The good part is that it is rarely well planned or organised and there is a clear pattern showing that most of these thefts are opportunists looking for a quick fix to their finances. This long recession is contributing to this and a lack of work and shortage of cash is encouraging people to “pick up” what is not rightfully theirs. The devastating part is that we live and work in an industry which revolves around trust. However the stupid part is that this can often so easily be avoided. The first thing to do is ensure that your belongings are well marked, not with a tiny label but in big obvious letters. I have yet to have someone report a £300 wheel barrow stolen that had their name sprayed on it in pink. The next step is to remove items that you do not need or that have any value. Leaving new £200 + stable rugs over the doors while you are ring side all day is an invitation to a thief so if it is irreplaceable or valuable then lock it away in your lorry. Finally vehicles themselves, all too often we have reports of cash, phones, watches being stolen from peoples vehicles when it is almost guaranteed they will be unoccupied all day. Please remember to lock them and this includes the door through from the horse area. Keys and locks can be cumbersome and inconvenient so consider having the side and rear door changed to combination locks. Simple but effective and self lock when you leave.

[WH Management Group]

This might also be of some help

November 2012
We would like to open our second instalment of our monthly security advice bulletins with a carry on from last month’s topic. We discussed security at shows and a few ways of looking after both your equipment and yourself. This prompted a number of calls and emails to the office about the type of locks and other equipment that is suitable for the job. Remember that given time and solitude, almost any lock can be cut or broken. The purpose therefore at an event or even the gates at home is to deter crime and no be “the soft touch for the opportunist”.
Chains should be minimum of 3mm hardened steel. This is set as the minimum as it will not allow a Gerber or Leatherman to snip through nor for it to be broken by hand. Our advice would be a minimum 9mm square cut hardened chain which needs an angle grinder or a 3 foot pair of bolt cutters both of which are an obvious indicator to trouble and not easy to disguise. Cable bike locks can also be used but DO NOT skimp on price as the cable/chain itself may well be fantastic but the cheap variants suffer from poor quality locks which can be broken with a good smack or two from a hammer.
Do not forget that when chaining items up, the locks and chains are only as good as their anchor. Generators to chassis runners, tack boxes around stable walls, gates which cannot be lifted off their hinges are all points to consider.
When it comes to padlocks always go for a hardened closed clasp, there are some great makes on the market and they range from £30 -£90 depending on size and make. If you need a combination ensure that it is a 4 digit and that the clasp has a lock recess at both sides, otherwise a strong pair of pliers or bar could lever it open.
If choosing a combination lock on doors, good quality is obviously a primary factor when choosing your make but also do not forget that they will only be as effective as the strength of the frame, hinges and other mounting points. This rule also applies to small safes and cash boxes.
Please do not hesitate to contact us for more advice and we are always available at events to check your current security measures.

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[tootell111]

This is all well and good after the event when I went to equifest it was our holiday and I didn't expect to to have to lock everything everytime I turn around I only wrote on this thread to prick somones conscience as this was my little girls ponys bridle the bridle wasn't worth the 10 Bob so it could only have been got for the bit!!!!!!!!! Witch I have replaced for under £40 of ebay it was the fact that we had to miss our class so again like I said I hope they feel good about them selves so no more advise on locking things what a sad world it has come to!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxx

[gadabout]

tootelll111 so sorry for your news,I have had my Italian Greyhound stolen out of my wagon by a gypsy boy who watched me walk around the back of it and was in before I could catch him, He then legged it with her, however she riddled free and thank god living up to her name raced back to me, he was gone.

[caspa]

Disgraceful, I'm appalled that someone would be so brazen to take you dog!! OMG what is it coming to when you can't leave your wagon for 5 mins, my little dogs are my world, I'd be beyond grief if they were taken..

We luckily had a lovely family park next to us and they kept an eye on things whilst we were in the ring, as we did their stuff when they were in the ring..

It's so sad, you just can't trust anyone these days.. :-(

[tootell111]

Exactly my point if they want it they'll get it whether you lock it or not so glad to here you got your dog back!!!!!!!!! How dare they!!!!!!!!!xxxxxxxxx

[eskvalleystud]

Is the general public allowed in to horsebox park or is it a secure place for competitors only? If the latter then its really worrying that a fellow competitor, a groom or connections would steel from you especially when they probably pass you whilst competing!!!

[tootell111]

No the general public have access xxxxxxxxx

[tortuga]

i mistakingly left my daughters grey red and diamontes on the peak pro tector ridng hat at the white rose ring at the great yorkshire show in july 2013. my daughter saw one of the top producers carrying one exactly the same later on but thaught nothing of it at that time , it wasnt till a few days later that we realised it was not at home or in the wagon. so i asked the said producer if she had taken it for safekeeping!!!!!!!! but denied taking it but she did say she picked it up but put it back down!. the hat was a birthday present and it has a unique serial number inside. and cost £250.

so if anyone knows anything about this theft or knows the whereabouts of the hat i would be grateful for its return. reward for return of hat

thanks

[pipandwill]

Its so sad when you think we go to these shows, hoping the people there will be like us and never imagine stealing anything. We take our Alsatian to every show with us and he's in the lorry when we're off... I think any thief would think twice about stealing from our lorry when they here the dog.