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Post by catkin on Nov 22, 2013 19:05:52 GMT
What do we all think of this class? What do we think of ALL types (SHP, SP) being shown in navy coats and coloured browbands?
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Post by ponymum on Nov 23, 2013 20:16:30 GMT
Surely they could just split the class and do a shp and sp class?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2013 20:49:56 GMT
Will adults on pony's be expected to wear jodhpur boots or long boots ?
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Post by ponymum on Nov 23, 2013 21:00:24 GMT
Surely they could just split the class and do a shp and sp class?
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Post by tcshowing on Nov 24, 2013 19:32:35 GMT
Well I think the class stipulations ie navy coats and pretty browbands and must be plaited up are aiming the class at just show pony types from what I have read and this also puts a lot of welsh part breds which are hunter ponies at a disadvantage and what about all the coloureds that are now pba welsh included the native types! Seems the class's is just a glorified show pony class to me! The rulings on it have not widened the class to many people at all!
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Post by paddy123 on Nov 24, 2013 19:41:55 GMT
I don't think hunter pony types will be at a disadvantage, if a judge can't see through a pretty browband and navy jacket to the horse underneath then they shouldn't be there... A part bred should just be judged on the most quality pony be that a hunter pony or a coloured.
Plenty of part bred arab hunter ponies use pretty browbands at the cherif and don't get marked down for it.
That's not to say however that the HOYS class will be full of hp and sp from the producers and a couple of stallions. Don't personally think that the class will contain many ponies which haven't already been to HOYS.
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Post by LMSmith on Nov 24, 2013 21:06:37 GMT
Can a welsh section b do this part bred class? How could it do a part bred class if its 100% welsh pony? The pony would need to be part bred Arab or welsh not a true welsh pony |
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Post by tcshowing on Nov 24, 2013 22:04:33 GMT
I agree I'm not saying that you can't see through a blue jacket and browband but why should a pony of a type not beable to compete as it's type! I don't think this class has opened any new doors and it's rather restricting within its rules and that's a shame there's a lot of differant types that won't beable to compete in it which is a shame
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Post by 09rebel99 on Nov 24, 2013 22:06:59 GMT
I agree I'm not saying that you can't see through a blue jacket and browband but why should a pony of a type not beable to compete as it's type! I don't think this class has opened any new doors and it's rather restricting within its rules and that's a shame there's a lot of differant types that won't beable to compete in it which is a shame Entirely agree!!! |
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Post by catkin on Dec 1, 2013 19:52:27 GMT
Yes, I just think it is going to be interesting to see one lot of ponies shown as we would expect to see them and another group, not. Will be interesting to see how it works out
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Post by fernwhitecharity on Dec 1, 2013 21:02:47 GMT
Where are the rules published please?
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Post by volatis on Dec 2, 2013 13:11:57 GMT
Surely they could just split the class and do a shp and sp class? I think you are missing the point of the class. It is not judged on type. It is irrelevant wether a pony is a show pony type, a hunter type or an eventing type. the class is judged on good movement, good conformation, especially limbs, good manners etc. Therefore a pony that might be mid way between a hunter and a show pony or might be much more of a worker type etc will not get penalised because it does not conform to the 'type' for those classes. Hence why asking competitors to dress uniformly so that judges do not subconciously compare them to a standard for a show pony or a hunter pony. Fernwhitecharity - guidelines are on the www.hoys.co.uk website |
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Post by ponymum on Dec 2, 2013 18:44:27 GMT
I havent missed the point! Our pony is pb welsh (see my avatar! ) and will compete in the class with blue jacket and browband., I was just voicing my thoughts!
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Post by prm on Dec 3, 2013 10:13:40 GMT
I'm so pleased they finally have a class for the part bred welsh don't think putting them with the PBArab is going to be easy for them but I think it's a fab idea and very excited about them for next year.
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Post by volatis on Dec 3, 2013 12:51:27 GMT
I havent missed the point! Our pony is pb welsh (see my avatar! ) and will compete in the class with blue jacket and browband., I was just voicing my thoughts! But if the class was a SHP or SP class then what difference would it be to the current classes? |
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Post by ponymum on Dec 3, 2013 12:55:42 GMT
I havent missed the point! Our pony is pb welsh (see my avatar! ) and will compete in the class with blue jacket and browband., I was just voicing my thoughts! But if the class was a SHP or SP class then what difference would it be to the current classes? People / owner breeders can ride in these classes as no age restrictions!So much more different than the current classes. |
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