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Post by hj49 on Jan 31, 2014 15:25:58 GMT
It's hard to describe exactly what he does as i cant see him doing it obviously as im riding him, ill try explain best i can! My horse when in mainly trot will every so often drop his backend, im not sure if its one leg or both its as if it just collapses then he picks up, its literally for one stride then hes normal again, hes been doing it a little while, id say at least once everytime hes ridden. Last night he did it three times. another issue that might be in conjunction is his flying changes, on one rein he flying changes fine, the other rein he changes in front but not behind. Its a very odd feeling when he does it and i bring him to trot straight away. having a look on other posts people have said possbile weak stiffle? I was more thinking a back or pelvis problem. If anyone has any idea what this may be comment below, i dont need the obvious answer of get a vet, back person etc as he will be getting someone to him soon Update : Video of his dressage in the arena eventing last week. www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151784439751191&l=486457033352887846 |
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Post by Pepper on Jan 31, 2014 16:01:17 GMT
In all honesty I'd say get someone on the ground to watch - his back is clearly not right, but similarly I'd be a little concerned if he is actually working correctly over his back and engaging properly?? As from what you describe I'd think not. I'd suggest dropping the changes for now - he could poss benefit from core strength exercises - tummy lifts etc, and in his schooling, lateral work in walk
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Post by ilovenatives on Jan 31, 2014 17:03:41 GMT
Id say that until he has everything checked it will be hard for people to give advice as it may be a pain issue that could be caused by any number of things .
Could you get someone to video you riding him so you could see for yourself what is going on ?
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Post by comanchediva on Jan 31, 2014 18:37:09 GMT
I may be stating the obvious but that definitely sounds like his back is sore and I wouldn't be riding him at all until he's been checked.
My old showjumper used to be like this when his back had "gone" and he was always back to normal after a visit from his physio.
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Post by siany on Jan 31, 2014 19:49:49 GMT
Sounds very similar to my boy- X-rays have just confirmed bone spavin in hock
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Post by hj49 on Jan 31, 2014 22:23:26 GMT
i have a video ill upload to youtube now of his dressage last week!!! Just to note, i havent been doing flying changes anymore, just a side issue so ive stopped him doing it. In the video he doesnt do it, however might be good for someone to look at his soundness in it? www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151784439751191&l=486457033352887846Just to add - dressage is not his strong point so no critism please, purely uploaded to help with his back in this post. |
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Post by hj49 on Jan 31, 2014 22:23:55 GMT
i have a video ill upload to youtube now of his dressage last week!!! Just to note, i havent been doing flying changes anymore, just a side issue so ive stopped him doing it. In the video he doesnt do it, however might be good for someone to look at his soundness in it? www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10151784439751191&l=486457033352887846Just to add - dressage is not his strong point so no critism please, purely uploaded to help with his back in this post. |
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Post by hj49 on Feb 1, 2014 15:16:49 GMT
bump
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Post by jacksprat on Feb 2, 2014 9:27:50 GMT
on your'e video he doesnt look sound on his near hind, doesnt seem to be tracking up on that leg, just my opinion
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Post by Karen, garrettponies on Feb 2, 2014 20:55:31 GMT
Have to say I agree with Jacksprat there. I would get his back checked X
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Post by siany on Feb 2, 2014 21:19:45 GMT
I agree - looks so similar to mine and he was sore in hindquarters from compensating. Vet said common symptoms not changing canter lead behind, and pony starting to stop jumping, esp grids and doubles, but finding xc ok as hocks not so underneath him. Do you jump? Any changes there?
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Post by siany on Feb 2, 2014 21:21:49 GMT
I agree - looks so similar to mine and he was sore in hindquarters from compensating. Vet said common symptoms not changing canter lead behind, and pony starting to stop jumping, esp grids and doubles, but finding xc ok as hocks not so underneath him. Do you jump? Any changes there?
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Post by hj49 on Feb 3, 2014 23:44:12 GMT
His attitude towards jumping has changed so much from a horse that loves it and is crazy, not stopped in nearly 3 years to refusing jumps half the size he normally does. thanks for the advice, i find the hind hard to tell when they are unsound helps alot having others look at the video. have stopped riding him, hes just being turned out now and in at night will ring the vet to come out asap, have been trying to find a back specialist in the area too
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Post by siany on Feb 4, 2014 7:58:00 GMT
Exactly the same as mine! He went from rushing into a jump to having to be pushed in bless him. I too found it hard to tell if he was lame- the reason turned out to be he was bilaterally lame on both back legs due to compensating. Im not saying yours has the same condition - but maybe worth pointing out to vet. Nerve block and xray confirmed mine - was very quick - all done in an hour and injected with cortisone at same time - looking sound 2 weeks on and hopefully back in work next week. Good luck
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Post by sarahp on Feb 4, 2014 8:10:03 GMT
Vet first, ideally one well up in movement and performance, he should recommend a qualified physical practitioner if he/she feels it necesssary.
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Post by catkin on Feb 17, 2014 21:16:28 GMT
apart from all the good advice as above, I have known similar with those with straight back legs, they find it hard to engage them in downward transitions. If there is nothing wrong with the horse physically, once you have done your checks, think about how you can help the horse move down through the paces.
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Post by sophoclees on Feb 17, 2014 21:54:20 GMT
Hi, a mare that I used to compete did exactly this, we had her back checked and nothing came up and the vet said she was young and to ride her through it but one day she just stopped and couldn't move. The vet came back and x-rayed her back legs and she had a bone spavin. She is back competing to advanced medium now but it took 2 years for her to come right after she had the op to remove it. She had it removed at Leahurst and they were fab. It sounds very similar to what yours is doing with his back end and she found it very difficult to change behind on flying changes on her right rein. xx
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Post by Cockers Cats and Cuddly Ponies on Aug 3, 2014 1:07:03 GMT
I know this thread was a while back, but this is exactly what mine does. Had everything checked, Physio, saddle etc spoken to numerous vets and has now been diagnosed with snapping hip syndrome. Quite common in humans less so in horses. It doesn't bother her, can be cantering along drops for one stride then picks back up in canter. Not lame due to it. Vets advised less jumping/schooling more hacking, cross country, beach rides etc an I must say she never does it when were out an about. Feel free to pm for more info xx
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Post by robrocks on Aug 3, 2014 21:54:55 GMT
Watch he'd the video but haven't read the other posts. I'd say near hind, he's uncomfortable to properly engage it even tilting his head in opposite direction - it's quite subtle though.
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