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Post by lolly on Jan 5, 2007 21:02:31 GMT
Oh Help Today our three year old section D has had his fourth topical treatment of Liverpool cream on his sarcoids, last one next week which will make 5 treatments in two weeks. The vet (a locum -mine off skying for a week) said the side effects may cause him to be run down and loose hair, (he has already dropped weight in 10 days) he doesn't hold weight easily but gets silly very quickly on a lot of food so I have to be careful. I will put him on vitamins and pink powder but can anybody suggest some supplements, food etc to help boost his immune systems.While there she also mentioned that through Homeopathy she could treat sweet itch, our rescued cob suffers with it, although totally controlled with dermac m, creams and a boet, she charges 95.00 for the initial assessment plus extras for treatments. This set me going and I have had a look on the net and have been bamboozled with all the alternative remedies like camrosa and neem oil etc, and I wondered if any one of you had tried anything with success. She also said there are alternative remedies for sarcoids but Dr Knottebelt didn't recommend these at all on the Leahurst website. Any advice really appreciated.  I would also like to mention that he got the sarcoids 18 months after running with a mare for six weeks who a eye sarcoid. The vets comment at the time I first spotted them was 'I bet he ran with a horse with sarcoids 12 to 18 months ago'....so much for the horse theory they can't be caught Lolly |
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Post by Itchy on Jan 5, 2007 21:10:37 GMT
Hi Lolly. My section B stallion has sweet itch and if left will rub himself raw with large weeping sores. We tried a Boet which he promptly shredded!! I now use Alvasweet which works brilliantly on him - I start using it as soon as the weather gets a bit warmer, about three times a week initially, then about twice, all over his mane and top of tail. You have to rub it in or it will run off, but it definately works for him. I also use a Rambo Fly rug which has a belly flap (most important) and which has ear holes which don't work, so I thread a leather headcollar through them over his poll which keeps the neck up and then I put a codura (sp) summer sheet over the top so he can't trash the fly rug and it worked brilliantly. He even wore it in the really hot weather, although I took the summer sheet off when he came in. The year before last he had no mane or tail, but didn't rub them at all last summer. Hope this helps!!
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Post by janet on Jan 5, 2007 21:34:33 GMT
we have a dartmoor pony with sweet itch, last year i decided to try the drugs trial, run by the people who make the boett rug,and a university, he had injections given by the vet, provided by the drug people , there were 3 of these at different times and some tablets given once a month.it cost quite a lot of money, especially with vet call out etc and it had no effect, has anyone else tried this approach.he trashes boett rugs and has to stay in most of the time in the warmer months.
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Post by Sarcoids on Jan 5, 2007 22:31:47 GMT
No help with the sweet itch I'm afraid (but the old Clydesdale boys swear by sulpher powder and Pig Oil!) But I had a mare with sarcoids and an old fashioned vet suggested smearing them in soft soap (which mum, reckoned from the tub he gave me was carbolic soap ) That got rid of them, even the one that was the size of a fist and was operated on twice ;D |
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Post by carabonni on Jan 6, 2007 0:09:25 GMT
re vet suggesting homeopathy. Is she/he a vet hom?
A livery on my yard had great success with head shaking and homeopathy.
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Post by princess on Jan 6, 2007 0:09:32 GMT
Lolly my vet told me that their is evidence that sarcoids do spread from horse to horse through flys in the summer?? My pony got a sarcoid last year and although the vet advised the cream from Dr Knottebelt, due to expense and the side effects the vet just simply tied it off!! It hasn't returned fingers crossed.
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Post by sarcoidlady on Jan 6, 2007 17:13:25 GMT
We had a mare with a huge sarcoid just below her ear. We used Compound W from the chemist for human warts, they crusted up and fell off.
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Post by itchy on Jan 7, 2007 20:08:26 GMT
hi i have a mare that was cronic itcher and i put her on naf d itch which i feed all year round she is out 24/7 with no rug on all through the summer and is shown at top level from the field
i have tried every product on the market and its by far the best
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Post by Guestless on Jan 8, 2007 12:33:21 GMT
I think we have to remember there are lots of different types of sarcoid so maybe only certain types are contagious. None of mine have ever had them - despite being in the same field (and friends with) a horse who grew them repeatedly. Each time said horse was treated using the cream from Dr Knottenbelt and it did get rid of them for a year or so.
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Post by vicsmith on Jan 8, 2007 20:00:56 GMT
has anyone tried any feed supplements for sweet itch just wondered if they work?
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Post by julie on Jan 9, 2007 9:27:32 GMT
Before Xmas I went down the route to get our Dartmoor allergy checked to see if, as well as midges, he was allergic to anything else and the highest score (higher than even the midges) was carrots! So we'll alter his diet omitting barley and beet but if anyone else has used this service did they they go on to have injections to help with reaction to midges? Vet seems totally unhelpful/clueless too.
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Post by mentalhead on Jan 9, 2007 17:36:16 GMT
my dartmoor pony has sweetitch, and like a previous post the best sloution is to bath your pony once a week with mild soap or coal tar soap, use either a boett or in my case 2 fly rugs one with belly flap and all over mask to stop flies in ears, and apply fly spray morning and night throughout summer / warm spells. There doesnt seem to be one thing that cures this, but many things can help, camrosa is my best , as you can apply to open wounds. I have been considering the injection mentioned, but am worried as said pony is a rather rotund native! And I think the injection is a steroid, suicide for a weighty pony...
Has anybody else got experience of the injection?
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Post by gg on Jan 10, 2007 13:05:03 GMT
In response to Julie's post.
Did you watch Watchdog this week? They did a piece about allergy testing on humans and all the different companies and types of testing. the conclusion by them and expert doctors was that it is all a load of rubbish designed to take our money off us - I would presume its the same for animal allergy testing too.
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Post by julie on Jan 10, 2007 13:29:22 GMT
In response to Julie's post. Did you watch Watchdog this week? They did a piece about allergy testing on humans and all the different companies and types of testing. the conclusion by them and expert doctors was that it is all a load of rubbish designed to take our money off us - I would presume its the same for animal allergy testing too. Didn't see it but I used to suffer from awful hayfever, finally had all the jabs etc and it did help but was lucky I had it young as you tend to grow out of it. However where horses are concerned it probably is a bit of a minefield - what works for one wont work for a 100 and I bet no-one really knows why... Keeping the midgesof him via rugs has really worked though his mane is so thin and unDartmoory we've trimmed him up and he is the LR/FR for a lovely little girl...but it doesnt stop me wondering if there is a miracle cure out there somewhere! Boetts are wonderful but Snuggyhoods are my preference. |
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Post by lolly on Jan 12, 2007 8:21:14 GMT
Thank you everyone thats replied, Calon is picking up a treat although weight is so hard to keep on, and he has lost some of his mane and tail but nothing major -side effects of the liverpool cream.  Anybody had Homeopathy for anything else, that has worked |
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Post by sarcoid worries on Jan 12, 2007 16:03:01 GMT
hi lolly out of interest did/has the cream from liverpool worked on the sarcoids and was it terably expensive only asking as my boy might have them in his armpits but the vet wont confirm or sends pics to liverpool until there bigger!
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Post by lolly on Jan 13, 2007 19:37:47 GMT
I had the vet as soon as we noticed them, he ordered the cream which took a few weeks to come and treated them over two weeks, it was covered on the insurance, although they will only cover for the first year, they seem to have gone and its just left a wound that is now clearing up. Its early days. I was told by the vet and also from by a email from Liverpool that the worst thing you can do is do nothing. At all times I trusted my vet who I feel is the bees knees and a excellent no nonsense horse vet. Change youre vet if you are not happy sarcoid worries. I cant believe they are so so common, I never heard of them until about 10 years ago, whether it was just me being naive but their seems to be a lot more about nowadays bloody horrid things |
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Post by vicsmith on Jan 17, 2007 20:20:40 GMT
is anyone else experiancing itchy horses and ponies at the moment? is it the humid weather or is this normal?
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