kp
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Post by kp on Oct 10, 2014 21:32:10 GMT
Looking for any info on how to get pony into a nice outline. Rider is too small to do it herself. Thanks
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Post by swifty8312 on Oct 11, 2014 8:52:04 GMT
Looking for any info on how to get pony into a nice outline. Rider is too small to do it herself. Thanks Have you tried long reining or getting an adult on to help set the pony up before jockey gets on? |
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sarahp
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Post by sarahp on Oct 11, 2014 9:37:40 GMT
As said, teach the pony first using other means, then teach the child how to get it on the pony. It is difficult nowadays when showing classes seem to demand an outline from children to young too ride in one.
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Post by kp on Oct 11, 2014 20:21:10 GMT
Thank you.
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Post by orangeblob on Oct 30, 2014 7:40:42 GMT
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Post by sarahp on Oct 30, 2014 7:52:15 GMT
I don't like gadgets of any sort, but I have used these in the past, on advice from a dressage trainer. It was on a WB that came to us muscled severely upside down who did require a bit of help to learn to work the other way up, so to speak, and develop topline muscle to enable him to come into a correct outline. They were not used to get the finished outline, and did require careful, expert and sympathetic lunging. Their main virtue is that they are not fixed to the bit, but run through, and I used them quite long to encourage him to go long and low rather than drawing his neck up and back using the underside of his neck, which is how he'd obviously been going for some time. Mine were made of baler twine, very useful stuff!
I have always but perhaps wrongly assumed they were developed at the Spanish Riding School in Vienna, and the trainer concerned had spent time there training. I'd never heard of them before or since!
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Post by catkin on Oct 31, 2014 17:32:10 GMT
I use my side reins like this when breaking. Had no idea this had a name!
If you already own a pony, then good advice here.
for small children, its a great bonus if you can buy a pony that is well set on and therefore tends towards more natural 'good' carriage in the first place.
A running martingale is a useful tool for small children to help keep the reins in the right position without fixing anything.
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Post by madmum on Nov 16, 2014 18:55:35 GMT
Would a bungie not also achieve this with a little more give?? Always interested in lunge aids. I have a pessoa but it's so upside down inside out I hate using it!
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Post by sarahp on Nov 16, 2014 19:31:01 GMT
I used a bungie too, over the poll, through the bit rings and back to girth either between the legs to the girth under the stomach or to a fixing of some sort half way up the sides of the pony.
Catkin, if someone says anything to me about side reins I automatically think of fixed and the bit end and also at the girth end, not running through as vienna reins do.
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Post by maddiesmum on Nov 16, 2014 22:00:39 GMT
One of ours is pretty much built on the bit & stays in a correct outline even with my 2yr old bouncing around & not holding the reins, and I backed her so know she has never been tied down she just has natural carriage. So definitely go for a good front. My other two are a bit trickier, so I work them more myself, lots of long reining & occasionally lunging with a Pessoa. It is harder especially as an outline is expected even from tiny jockeys. But it will come if you continue to work correctly & your jockey will grow!! My 4yr old (now her feet are just past the flaps) can squeeze with her legs & sponge on her reins etc so you should get there between all of it  |
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Post by gillwales on Nov 17, 2014 9:13:28 GMT
I favour a bungie , so long that it is not fitted to be restricting.
and it is something that a little person can ride with so they get the feeling of where the head placement should be, however do not make the mistake of correct head placement with going on the bit and working from behind, the former should come from the later.
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