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Post by ferraro on Jun 15, 2015 21:31:32 GMT
Looking for some advice and bit suggestions .my sec c mare has started to put her tongue over the bit and she constantly tries to do it any way how from opening her mouth and pulling her tongue bck and even sticking it outside .I tried sticking the bit higher in her mouth to stop her and it just made her even more annoyed by it .she would fit even more to try get her tongue over there was a few times were settled and keep her mouth still .but she would hang bck and not be as forward and flowing as normal any advices gratefully received x x x
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Post by robrocks on Jun 15, 2015 21:44:51 GMT
How old is she and which bit is she in?
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Post by ferraro on Jun 15, 2015 21:47:30 GMT
She is seven nw and is in a neue schule venberiant .not sure if I spelt that right
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Post by robrocks on Jun 17, 2015 17:53:59 GMT
Unless her flatwork is very established I don't link the verbindent. It is supposed to engage the hocks and is not for early stages of schooling in my opinion. She could very well be panicking at this engagement. My welsh cob hated it. Use a snaffle with a lozenge or French link with lots of bit butter and focus on just going forward and not on where her head is for a while.
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Post by lulah on Jun 23, 2015 22:45:22 GMT
how long has she been broken/riding for? has she always been like it or has it just started? i have a welsh cob that hated the verbinend too. He now goes really nice in the neue schule trans angled.
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Post by victoria50 on Jun 24, 2015 19:06:35 GMT
we switched from an NS with a lozenge to a myler hanging cheek comfort snaffle with or without a port, it gives more tongue room and our horse has relaxed and stopped trying to put his tongue over the bit with this particular bit.
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Post by sageandonionagain on Jun 26, 2015 20:30:06 GMT
Really sorry, I don't wish to be at all rude but no bit engages the hocks. I wish it did, it would save me years of schooling. The neue schule bit you are using is a very nice bit. I can't say whether it is suitable for your pony or if it is fitted correctly obviously. Get on to the bit bank and discuss with them AFTER you have had your pony's teeth looked at by the dentist. Get your trainer in to have a look at what is going on because after we have checked the physical stuff out with the pony, we then look at how we are riding. This isn't a criticism of your riding! A micklem bridle helps some.
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Post by robrocks on Jun 30, 2015 20:50:23 GMT
Sageandonion the verbindend claims to lighten the fore. When not relying on a bit, to lighten the fore we school from behind, engaging the hock and thus promoting self carriage. We should school like this in a snaffle not one which claims to "lighten the fore"..,the horse but back recommended it to me years ago for a horse who wouldn't engage his hocks. I would never use it now unless the horse was already schooled to do this and to go forward properly. So after my ramble I hope it is clear that neue schule is claiming that this but "lightens the fore"!
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Post by indyrose on Jul 27, 2015 17:35:44 GMT
i had a pony who was fussy with his mouth and would put his tongue over the bit, so swamped him to a small straight bar with a port, and he seemed to like it no matter what the bit was as long as it had a port. He eventually grew out of it and will go in any bit now.
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