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Post by Jenna on Mar 2, 2009 19:10:21 GMT
Wasnt going to tell anyone about this but i might aswel, its not a secret and i would like peoples opinions
Jade got her Innocs fri, went down sat to give dan her lesson an get jade ready for the show on sunday, her nose was all snotty, we give her a clean up an she was fine, tacked he rup, an she was reluctant to go in the paddock, Dan said shes done that a few times over the last few days (were she didnt want to go in paddock).
Dan rode her but never done too much. Brought her in an Shell took her outside (cant remember what for think it was to pull her tail/mane) an brought her back in her stable saying she was breathing funny.
We all looked at her an every now an then her stomach would come out a bit an go back in. Didnt look like it was her breathing looked like there was something in there, an when you put your hand on it you could feel something pushing gently on your hand!
So we have put 2 and 2 together an think she may be in foal
Contacted the woman who we bought her off an she was laughing cos she thought we were joking, she called back a few hours later an said when she picked jade up from her breader she was running with a pally stallion (she doesnt know if it was a B or Part bred) so she thinks it may be possible she is in foal.
About 5 people have looked at her an all agree they think the same. She was so fat when we got her an lost a little with exercise but she was still over weight so we cut her food down an shes still fat!
Turns out the snotty nose is a reaction to her innoc, she never ate any of her hay on sat night either an had some lumps on her neck!
We have been advised by a few people to do a human pregnancy test on her so were going to do it tonight
What does everyone think?
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Post by fayeandash on Mar 2, 2009 20:45:48 GMT
Gosh, what a situation to be in, i think the lady who sold the pony in the first place should have at least warned others that she had been with a stallion and there was a possibility she would be in foal, especially if she was going to a ridden home, i wouldn't be very happy if this had happened to me.
As for the human pregnancy test, i've never heard of anybody using these on horses, so wouldn't know if they work? Maybe a visit from the vet would be more informative.
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Post by hunter on Mar 2, 2009 20:52:32 GMT
i think you sound to me like you need to get a vet out stratght away !!! human preg test will not work because the levels of eastrogen are much higher in a maree than a human female , But any way you shouldnt even be thinking of tests ,just get a vet !!!!
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Post by hottoddy on Mar 2, 2009 21:55:13 GMT
Def get the vet and they can scan her! May also need some tests, as you didnt know and have had her on a diet she may need extra vits and mins! Good luck!
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Post by Jenna on Mar 2, 2009 22:43:14 GMT
Alot of breeders have told me to use a normal human pregnancy test, i bought one but waited hours for her to pee an she never, im going to have to get the vet out anyway cos she still hasnt ate any of her hayledge tonight, although she is eating feed. She wasnt on a strict diet, just cut her feed down a little an her hayledge, its all gone back to normal now though.
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Post by nici on Mar 2, 2009 23:21:35 GMT
Human pregnancy test doesn't work, but if you have the patience to wait with a bucket for her to wee, there is one specially for horses www.weefoal.com/ |
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Post by Jenna on Mar 2, 2009 23:33:25 GMT
It was actually the vet who first suggested the human pregnancy test
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Post by lottieloo on Mar 3, 2009 9:58:53 GMT
If this pony was mine, I wouldn't bother waiting around for a wee sample, a simple scan from the vet will confirm in foal or not and then you will know which direction to take with regards to care/feeding for her. Hope all goes well.
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Post by helenatrunshaw on Mar 3, 2009 11:38:40 GMT
I too feel a vet visit and scan is the way to go. That way you can tell for sure and if she is have an idea of when she may be due aswell. I've also been told to try human pregnancy tests but when i checked with an equine fertility specialist she said it was a waste of time/money due to detecting the wrong hormone. I'd def go for the vet with a scanner and at least you know then.
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 12:40:31 GMT
Vet is booked for thursday ill let you all know the outcome ;D
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Post by ponymum on Mar 3, 2009 12:48:48 GMT
Please be careful, as you dont know how far along your mare is, only agree to an internal after exhausting every other option xx
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 14:37:09 GMT
Please be careful, as you dont know how far along your mare is, only agree to an internal after exhausting every other option xx Wasnt goint to get an internal was getting a scan but... Spoke to the woman who bred jade an she said she doesnt think there is any chance she can be in foal, she said she ran with stallions an was due last summer but when vet came to check her she wasnt in foal, and she was only turned out with two geldings after that! |
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Post by thecremellosociety on Mar 3, 2009 16:01:15 GMT
Human pregnancy tests test for human chorionic gonadotropin (hCG), the first word being the key !!!!
If they are thinking about the HRT treatments that have syntheitic premarin and horse pee is like human pee thats definatly wrong !
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Post by thecremellosociety on Mar 3, 2009 16:02:09 GMT
And vets checks can be notoriously wrong !!!!!!!!!! at an early stage she could have caught get her scanned asap from the outside then possibly internally also
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Post by lzbrdly on Mar 3, 2009 18:09:21 GMT
If she is due to foal, she prob wont eat as much haylage and more hard feed because they get quite bloated towards the end.IHope you find out soon.
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Post by hunter on Mar 3, 2009 18:25:05 GMT
if she is that far they will not have to scan ,and i think you may find that they cant scan from outside ! a simple blood test or an internal is best ,he wont have to be very invasive because by what you say he will practicly be shaking hands with the foal straight away !! good luck .
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 21:21:51 GMT
please see my earlier post
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Post by thecremellosociety on Mar 3, 2009 22:19:42 GMT
for late pregnancy you can scan from the outside if the machine is powerful enought i know because i had it done at 9 months on my hunter mare, didnt stop it being a breech and upside down disaster but was certainly visable.
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 22:35:35 GMT
Dont mean to be rude, but as i have just said pls see my previous post lol
it basically says shes not in foal!
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 22:36:18 GMT
Spoke to the woman who bred jade an she said she doesnt think there is any chance she can be in foal, she said she ran with stallions an was due last summer but when vet came to check her she wasnt in foal, and she was only turned out with two geldings after that! |
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Post by cyflawn on Mar 3, 2009 22:44:51 GMT
Im sorry but a pony moved onto my old yard and i said to the lady 'that ponies in foal' she was huge i told her for about 2 months, the owner eventually rang the old owner who said no we had her scanned after she got in with the stallions and shes not in foal, the pony was on practically nothing to eat and still wasnt losing weight. A few weeks later i was schooling the pony in the paddok, morning after a foal popped out.
She rang the owner and told her and turned out they never had her checked.
Get your vet out to check her, you might think who you bought your pony off wouldn't lie to you but what happend to my friend has proved people will lie to protect themselves.
I would definitly be getting the vet out to not only check whether shes in foal or not but to ensure shes ok after your initial scare
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Post by Jenna on Mar 3, 2009 22:55:02 GMT
Shes back to normal now an shes eating an she seems fine within herself, she was due to foal last summer an didnt, she was then turned out with 2 geldings, so i trust what iv been told ;D
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Post by Guestless on Mar 4, 2009 12:27:29 GMT
It was actually the vet who first suggested the human pregnancy test It's fine to trust what you've heard but, personally (and in any event), I would be using another vet!  |
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Post by smokeycott on Mar 6, 2009 22:27:59 GMT
her tummy moving when she had a snotty nose could be just breathing harder as she had had snobs, it can look like stange .
i watch my infoal mares and im always amazed when i see foal doing indoor karate!!!!
its always a worry when you buy a mare for riding, we had one a few years ago that gained weight over the winter!!!!!! and lost it very quickly one spring morning!!!!!
ive had mare scanned as empty and they have been in foal , so worth doing a blood test if not sure , puts your mind at rest.
glad it worked out o.k for you.
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Post by Jenna on Mar 17, 2009 11:41:23 GMT
her tummy moving when she had a snotty nose could be just breathing harder as she had had snobs, it can look like stange . i watch my infoal mares and im always amazed when i see foal doing indoor karate!!!! its always a worry when you buy a mare for riding, we had one a few years ago that gained weight over the winter!!!!!! and lost it very quickly one spring morning!!!!! ive had mare scanned as empty and they have been in foal , so worth doing a blood test if not sure , puts your mind at rest. glad it worked out o.k for you. Its virtually impossible for her to be in foal as she was out with 2 geldings, so i trust that she is in foal, shes unwell again atm, think shes got a virus so vets coming out (again) so may just ask her to take a blood test as everyone is making me worry now! |
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